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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by charlou » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:43 am

Matty wrote:
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Gawdzilla wrote:Waldo, and Magic Inc. by some retired Navy officer. Name escapes me.
Far from among his best works.

Poul Anderson mentioned the latter as an inspiration for his Operation Chaos stories... But the inspiration was definitely not up to the level of the subsequent work... heck, even that quack Turtledove's Case of the Toxic Spell Dump was better.
i think thats unfair. Waldo in particular i thought was excellent. This one time he was hiding behind the cannon on a pirate ship and it took me fucking AGES to find him.
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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by apophenia » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:02 am


I just finished Michelle Goldman's "Kingdom Coming" about the religious right's design on, if not world domination, at least dominion over 2-3 branches of American government with the concomitant control over culture, ideology, arts and the wallet — and the vote — of Joe six-pack. It was an enjoyable, sometimes frightening, and for the novice, angering, look at a slice of American pie that is only goodness and lace on the surface. The lingering references to Hannah Arendt's tome on totalitarianism, and the all too real possibility that another Germany could happen here, make it engaging reading. Sadly, in an afterword, and a youtube video, she makes clear that her profile was just that, a profile, not a fair and balanced assessment, so while the elements certainly exist, her early polemic is alarmist, and only later measured with calm sobriety; and it's hard to unring that bell once rung.

What else. One of my book clubs is reading Dawkins' The Blind Watchmaker. Unfortunately, I was not on the ball, so the seats for the discussion group filled before I knew it had even been announced. That combined with being relatively savvy about evolution for a layperson with no formal background, I'll likely end up being bored for hours on end without any notches on my belt to show for it. When I added my name to the waiting list, I was third in line for a spot; since then, a fourth has signed on. That's going backwards, not forwards.

In other areas, my philosophy group chose to tackle Wittgenstein's magnum opus, the Philosophical Investigations (there are two Wittgensteins — the later Wittgenstein, represented by the Investigations, and the early Wittgenstein, represented by the Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus). I was running behind the day of the first bull session, and while I only had two hours of reading remaining, and 3-4 hours to do it in, I suddenly realized how monumentally bored I was by what he had said and was likely to say. I stopped right there and abandoned my fellows completely. I recognize he wrote the Investigations 60 years ago, and that he never organized them into a book or argument (they were arranged and published post-humously), but in my view, the last 60 years of philosophy of mind, sociology, psychology and neuroscience have passed 1950s Wittgenstein by — what he had to say then is either superseded, much better understood, or completely irrelevant in the face of contemporary knowledge and ideas (the field of linguistics and the revolutions wrought by people like Chomsky make Wittgenstein's inchoate fumblings appear downright quaint). My philosophy group will meet at least one more time to discuss the Investigations, and, though it will be akin to pulling teeth, I will shoulder my burden for the greater good the opportunity to appear superficially hip and prescient.

My secular bible study group is doing something about whether Jesus is still froopy if you take away his role in the Christian faith. I'll be getting something of a pass to return to my own obsessions in the coming months. I know one book club is hosting books in October and November that I have zero interest in. So perhaps I'll find time to read a couple of good books on Chinese philosophy in the Hundred Schools period ("A Daoist Theory of Chinese Thought" by Hansen, "Disputers of the Tao" by A.C. Graham, and "A History of Chinese Philosophy, Volume 1" by Fung Yu-Lan [being the longer version of his "A Short History of Chinese Philosophy",] and though I try to resist, I have an absolutely delectable volume of "Sources of Chinese Tradition" which beckons to me like the moans of a lover sleeping next to me).

The group I met with tonight has a juicy selection on deck for next time, which I unfortunately do not recall.

I'm excited to give the one group a pass as it allows me to indulge in some guilty pleasures, to actually get around to readings such as Damasio's "Descartes Error", a couple of books on dialetheism that I've been chomping at the bit to read (a dialethea being a statement which is both true and false, dialetheism being the epistemological theory and procedures for maintaining order in the face of such ill-behaved creatures — if possible), and Pascal Boyer's "Religion Explained" which gives an anthropologist's account of what does and does not make a religion a religion (and while I've only read a few chapters, it isn't your typically well-meaning but ill-informed speculating). But Boyer may wait, as I intend to propose it to a group for their reading.

With winter coming on, I'll do my best to deplete the list of books that I've been itching to read while balancing the needs of my various discussion groups. Come the turn of the year, I expect to turn once again to an informal attempt to educate myself about philosophy by finishing where I left off in Hume's Treatise, reading Kant's Critique of Pure Reason (along with "helper books") and moving on to Schopenhauer's The World As Will and Representation, and a selection from a Frege reader. With any luck, I'll reach the 20th century philosophers accompanied by the song of the Robin. In. my. dreams. Who knows what actual rot I will have read by then, but that's the plan.

How do other people manage their reading needs/wants/folly?

I'm a slow reader, barely pushing 30-35 pages an hour, and I am in utter awe of people who read whole sets of novels in a month.

Anyway, "The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men, gang aft agley."

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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by Hermit » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:14 am

apophenia wrote:I'm a slow reader, barely pushing 30-35 pages an hour
Slow? I am jealous. 30 or so pages per hour is the top speed I might reach with novels. When it comes to non-fiction, it is normally a fraction of that, and even that is not sustained.
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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:44 am

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Gawdzilla wrote:Waldo, and Magic Inc. by some retired Navy officer. Name escapes me.
Far from among his best works.

Poul Anderson mentioned the latter as an inspiration for his Operation Chaos stories... But the inspiration was definitely not up to the level of the subsequent work... heck, even that quack Turtledove's Case of the Toxic Spell Dump was better.
Sentimental favorites for reasons I shan't divulge. I did like Operation Chaos for the first two stories, IIRC. The kidnapping seemed forced, however.
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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:00 pm

I'm quite literally just about to start reading The Pre-History of the Mind by Steven Mithen - A search for the origins of art, religion and science, apparently.
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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by apophenia » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:46 pm



/me dances around excitedly.

It normally takes a few weeks to receive an item via inter-library loan, so needless to say I was happily surprised to find the copy of Gadamer's Truth and Method that I requested last week waiting for me at the library. That, and I just opened a package that arrived yesterday to unveil my new (or close to it) copy of The History of Political Philosophy by Strauss and Cropsey which I acquired dirt cheap. I love new books. While I shant touch the latter until late winter at earliest, I intend to misbehave this weekend, push all regular reading obligations aside, and form a substantial commitment to Gadamer's magnum opus by beginning it in earnest. That, and I found several good looking volumes on starting, developing and growing a classical or operatic music collection, so this weekend I intend to also divert my attention to getting some good opera and classical music into the pipeline to breathe new life into my rather anemic collection.

Monday I return to the grind.


ETA: Oh, and I also have the complete Anne Sexton, some William Stafford and Mark Strand, and a few collections on loan. I don't include them in my regular reading as I just dip into them as mood and need requires. I've only recently returned to reading poetry. In high school and college I fancied myself something of a poet, even considering a minor in it at one point. That was until the day I realized that I was a talentless hack, destined to writing wannabe confessionals and aping the styles of those with talent. After that, I swore off poetry, except to indulge the fancies of lovers who themselves considered themselves touched. The urge returned when a line from a Sexton poem dregded itself from memory, to be used in the quote game. Thanks, Ratz. Oddly enough, recently, one of the flakier humanists I've locked horns with of late posted a call for participants in a poetry based discussion last week. I'm likin' this shit.

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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by Tero » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:37 am

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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by charlou » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:41 am

Your pleasure at reading is infectious, apophenia! I've been rather lazy in that regard for some time ... still reading, but sporadically ... Must remedy that.
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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by apophenia » Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:51 pm

charlou wrote:Your pleasure at reading is infectious, apophenia! I've been rather lazy in that regard for some time ... still reading, but sporadically ... Must remedy that.
I belong to two book clubs and a philosophy group that I found through meetup.com. I don't know if such is available where you are, but I found that having a discussion group to talk about a book with and a deadline to meet does wonders for my motivation. Prior to these groups, I'd read maybe a book a month, tops. Now, as a result of these groups, I typically read at least 3 books a month.


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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by Ian » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:23 pm

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Nice, light reading. Gives me a warm fuzzy inside.
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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by Rum » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:39 pm

I'm reading:-

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I don't know why either, because I have no real interest in the sadistic or the depraved (not at that level anyway!) or crime for that matter, but I am hypnotised by it. I want to stop reading it - the details are gruesome - but I can't!

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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by Tero » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:41 pm

Still rocks, plus a Biggest Year, twitching book.
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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:55 pm

The Hogfather.
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Post by anna09 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:27 pm

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Just bought this! :fall:

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Re: What are you reading now?

Post by apophenia » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:37 am

anna09 wrote:Image

Just bought this! :fall:
I hope to get around to The Language Instinct this year. Someone once gifted me a book by Pinker but I was so turned off by the sloppiness in his thinking that I have to this day avoided the greater body of his work. The Language Instinct, however, by all accounts is a classic. Please let me know what you think of this one.
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