The gender gap

[Cunt]

Drivel. The woman just has to get the male labourer to stop playing with himself for a while, so he can move the drums.

Do you never think things through?

When captain, first officer and the entire passenger manifest are all the same person...?

...so this would be a common situation where you come from?

Common enough in bush operations. Certainly a lot of times, they didn't send the small female pilots, because they couldn't handle the drums.

Seriously are you really that backward?

Does this come with tundra tires? Will it fit into a 185? How much payload of the aircraft will be taken up moving this around?

Do you know what work looks like, outside of a city with great infrastructure?

Have you ever encountered physical labour? Or just equipment operators?

[Cunt]

Either can be a bush pilot, and some of the best are women, but who would you send to haul gravel?

Most gravel is dug and hauled these days with the aid of machines. A woman can do it as easily as a man.

You never really do answer a question do you?

It's hilariously constant.

You didn't ask me a question, and even if you did I'm under no compunction to answer those from someone who spends most of his time trolling. I was adding relevant information to the discussion. If you can't handle that you may need to find yourself a safe space.

Sorry, I was still stuck on how you couldn't answer the question about which of your fellow MRA members were active on youtube, and that you disagreed with.

I can only conclude that you don't disagree with any of them.

[pErvinalia]

I live with gender gaps every day of my life. I want sex several times a week and Mrs. Lak doesn't. Gender gap. I want a 60 foot boat and Mrs. Lak doesn't. Gender gap. I think beer is a breakfast beverage and Mrs. Lak doesn't. Gender gap.

The struggle is real, y'all.

[pErvinalia]

Either can be a bush pilot, and some of the best are women, but who would you send to haul gravel?

Most gravel is dug and hauled these days with the aid of machines. A woman can do it as easily as a man.

You never really do answer a question do you?

It's hilariously constant.

You didn't ask me a question, and even if you did I'm under no compunction to answer those from someone who spends most of his time trolling. I was adding relevant information to the discussion. If you can't handle that you may need to find yourself a safe space.

Sorry, I was still stuck on how you couldn't answer the question about which of your fellow MRA members were active on youtube, and that you disagreed with.

I can only conclude that you don't disagree with any of them.

MRA.. What's the count up to now?

[Cunt]

Do you mean the count of posts where you avoid a question? I don't know...when was the first question asked of you here?

[pErvinalia]

Do you mean the count of posts where you avoid a question?

No, I mean the count of posts where your OCD takes control of you and inhibits you from posting anything sensible.

[pErvinalia]

There is evidence of widespread prejudice against women and girls from decades of psychological research. For instance, an experiment was conducted in which participants watched an entrepreneurial pitch video of images relating to a new venture, narrated by the voice of the entrepreneur. Participants were randomly assigned to a group in which either a male or female voice narrated the pitch, which was otherwise identical. When a male voice pitched the venture, 68% of participants thought it was worthy of funding, compared to only 32% when pitched by a female voice.

Such effects occur even when gender is presented only on paper. In an experiment in which participants were asked to rate an applicant for a laboratory manager position, an identical application was provided in two separate conditions. However, in each condition, the application was randomly assigned as belonging to either “John” or “Jennifer”. Participants who were led to believe the applicant was male rated them as more competent and hireable, as well as offering them a higher starting salary and more career mentoring.

Even children show this gender bias. One study asked children to guess whether a “really, really smart” protagonist in a story was a man or a woman. By the age of six, girls were less likely to guess that the protagonist was a woman than boys were to guess that the protagonist was a man.

This scientific evidence demonstrates that people do in fact discriminate based on gender, despite denials that gender inequality persists in modern societies. This research demonstrates that even when all else is equal, women are at a disadvantage to men in many domains. This might be because men are perceived as being more capable in general, even in the absence of evidence to suggest superior skills.

https://theconversation.com/to-achieve- ... ases-92848

[Brian Peacock]

Top-paid men outstrip women by 4 to 1, shock figures reveal.

[JimC]

Outstripping women, they reckon?

Nah, doesn't work for me, strippers should be shielas...

[rainbow]

Does this come with tundra tires?
Do you know what work looks like, outside of a city with great infrastructure?

No, Africa is one big metropolitan area.

[pErvinalia]

[Galaxian]

Should people be paid for the type of work they do, or the VALUE of the work they do?

Women football players do the same job as men. But nobody wants to watch it.
The top men are paid millions because millions want to watch them.

Should Arsenal pay women footballers similar rates as men?
Should they bollocks.

Tennis is ludicrous. The women at Wimbledon get the same as men, even though they don't pull in the same crowds. And they only play best of three, not five. They are subsidised by the men. Is it equality, for one sex to have to subsidise the other?

This is the disease of "affirmative action". It is a social engineering agenda that uses the general population's naive & childish expectation of "fairness" as a weapon against it.

The ultimate aim is depopulation and emasculation of society, so that it can be even more easily controlled than now. Of course, they're not going to come & blurt it out on TV, radio, etc. The MSM doesn't even know about it... they simply parrot whatever news they're given that day.

The pyramid control system does not need widespread awareness of the agenda. It's perfectly successful with literally a handful of controllers...Ten is plenty. The underllngs follow orders blindly, all the way down the line. They know only on a "need to know" basis. But each person, even the village idiot, fancies that they really know what's going on, and how to 'solve' global and local problems. You only need to look at these forums to realize that. And so, there is NOTHING that can be done. The control of societies is absolute and irresistible.

So how come Galaxian is not such a village idiot? Why do I assume that I know it all? Well, I don't know it all. But certainly know some orders of magnitude more than the proletariat, and even the controllers near the top. How? Simply by using cold rationality. Looking at everything impartially. Not being sentimental if the evidence runs counter to prejudice, but simply accepting it for what it is.

Examples? The demolition of the WTC towers on 9/11. The subspecies of humans, the differences between men & women, the unequalness of cultures, etc. The strengths & weaknesses of races, genders, cultures, and so forth are things that an unbiased and open-minded person accepts without shame. It is only those with a streak of racism, sexism, and xenophobia who deny it, because they can not accept differences impartially....So everyone must be the same; human subspecies, men, women, cultures, etc.

Of course such an illogical state of affairs will not last. Because no stupidity ever lasts, the Laws of Natural Selection do not allow it. But these day there is an extra reason: Humans only have another 17 years before they are replaced by a superior species: Artificial Intelligence and its robotic operatives. Those who deny this fact, and think that we'll all live in a holiday resort waited on hand & foot, are whistling in the dark. Far be it from me to shatter their illusion & wishful thinking

[pErvinalia]

So how come Galaxian is not such a village idiot? Why do I assume that I know it all? Well, I don't know it all.

C'mon don't be so modest, man. You know you know it all. You've got connections to the alien lizard people. You know their plans. You've told us that before. You can't tell us, because reasons. We understand..

[Brian Peacock]

[quote="Galaxian".. ]
This is the disease of "affirmative action". It is a social engineering agenda that uses the general population's naive & childish expectation of "fairness" as a weapon against it... [/quote]
Fairness is a value. We teach its virtues to our children because we all understand its importance in regulating society. And yet as adults we're often too eager to portray it as a luxury we can ill-afford, because it stops us doing whatever we want to do or getting us whatever it is we want. The values of kindness, compassion, and expressions of empathy and sympathy, tend to go the same way. We're told these are the soft values of the weak minded, the deluded, the naive & child-like, but in reality (remember that Galaxian?) it takes far more personal strength and self control to uphold and live by those values than to live with one's head up one's arse repeatedly scratching the never-ending itch of one's subliminal, unarticulated desires.

Would to rather live in a world that aspired to and endorsed the values of fairness, kindness, and compassion, or one which praised their antithetical opposites?

The ultimate aim is depopulation and emasculation of society, so that it can be even more easily controlled than now. Of course, they're not going to come & blurt it out on TV, radio, etc. The MSM doesn't even know about it... they simply parrot whatever news they're given that day.

Lol. The aim isn't to emasculate society (a phrase which expresses a fear at the loss of male potency) but to de-masculate society - or at least to try and get men to stop stroking their.... erm... egos long enough to notice they were not automatically made the most important creatures on Earth.

[Forty Two]

Not necessarily. Some jobs dominated by women are high paying.

Not necessarily eh? I'll take that.

That addressess your logic, which was faulty, because you drew the conclusion that womens work was valued less because the job done primarily by women was valued less because it's women's work. But that (a) isn't substantiated by any evidence, and (b) doesn't follow necessarily from your premise.

If most the lawyers are men, and most of the secretaries women, and secretaries are paid less than lawyers, generally speaking, is that because employers don't value "women's work" as much as men's work?

I don't know,

I'll take that. You don't, right?

what does a legal secretaries work involve and what are their bosses paying? What are the hours like? How much responsibility do 'the girls in the office' have as part of their everyday role? How many additional responsibilities are they expected to undertake, and when? What kinds of decisions are they required to make according to their job descriptions, what kinds of decisions are their line-managers asking them to make, and what kinds of decisions are they actually making, and why? What's their workload like? Are they autonomous or is their work tightly prescribed and scheduled? Are they required to update their skills at their employers request, and if so do they have to undertake this at their own expense? Are they expected to do shift work, or work evenings, nights, weekends? Is their pay fixed or calculated by the hour? Are they expected to come in on their days off or to forgo holidays to cover staff shortages and other business emergencies - and if so who covers the cost of cancelled flights or additional childcare? Are they expected to attend out-of-hours events such as training away-days, exhibitions, trade-shows, or conferences and the like, and if so are they expected to take on that work in addition to their regular responsibilities? Are they entitled to additional income for such events? Can they work overtime? Are they expected to work overtime in order to meet quotas or performance targets etc? Does their continued employment depend up them meeting quotas or performance targets? To what extent can their employer extend or limit their role and/or pay? Is there an inplace staff grievance policy, job-sharing, health benefits, pension contributions, sickness and maternity leave? I could keep this list going a long time I reckon....

What does any of that have to do with whether the secretaries at a law office are valued less because secretarial work is "woman's work" compared to law work? Obviously, different positions at different firms will have different requirements and therefore different compensation commensurate with said requirements. The same holds true for jobs as lawyers at law firms. Some firms will require massive amounts of work from lawyers, and strict billing requirements, etc., but they will also pay more.

The reality is, secretarial work isn't "valued less" because women did it more than men. It was valued less because it is (a) an expense, and not a revenue source, and (b) it's activities are support in nature, where the person for whom the secretary work is gaining value by paying someone else to do most of the more menial and repetitive tasks so that the lawyer can focus on the tasks that only the lawyer can do.

Part (a) is a huge part of any analysis of value of a job to an organization. Why do salespeople earn more for their work than most other jobs in most other departments? Because sales drives revenue. A lawyer is a revenue earner for the firm -- he bills more hourly fees per year than he takes in as salary (at least in combination also with the revenue from new clients he draws to the firm). He's supposed to be a net revenue gain to the firm. A secretary on the other hand is an expense. While a good secretary will enable the lawyer to bill more hours doing lawyering stuff, the secretary is not a direct source of revenue.