When is a citizen not a citizen?

[Scot Dutchy]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+true+size+of+the+netherlands

So? We dont want that crap here. What has size got to do with anything? We punch away above our weight?

http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/nld/

[Sean Hayden]

Then don't eat it dumbass. The point of the link was to help remind you of the possible diversity in the US.

[L'Emmerdeur]

The argument was, in past disputes, was that natural born citizenship meant born in the US, plus having parents who were US citizens. Never has it been alleged to mean born outside the country with a US citizen parent.

Bullshit. Cite any legal precedent which states that "natural born" cannot refer to being born to a US citizen. I've been over this issue in detail with Seth, and he was unable to produce anything of substance but a citation of Emer de Vattel, which certainly is not dispositive in regard to the law in the United States. As I recall you were unable to cite anything definitive in support of your argument, either. It's not the settled question you present it as, and there was no serious doubt (beyond the realm of fringe blogs) that Cruz was eligible to run for the office of president.

[laklak]

But that is your food culture - a fusion cuisine for a fusion nation. The US is culture-rich: you got that stuff in spades, all over - even in Wisconsin.

I'm appropriating English culture today and making a steak and kidney pie. With mash and peas. Pip pip and tally ho eh wot old boy?

[Brian Peacock]

Indubitably, my good, stout fellow.

[JimC]

Brian, it makes me feel weird when you use "Mr C" to describe Collector - it's what my students often call be (when they don't say Sir...)

[NineBerry]

Remarkable. Can't be an accident. Has anyone ever seen JimC and Collector in the same Room? </Galaxian>

[Brian Peacock]

Brian, it makes me feel weird when you use "Mr C" to describe Collector - it's what my students often call be (when they don't say Sir...)

[JimC]

[Hermit]

Remarkable. Can't be an accident. Has anyone ever seen JimC and Collector in the same Room? </Galaxian>