Guess What - We're ALL Catholics!

[MrJonno]

Fundamental discord within the Catholic hierarchy - it's a win-win situation.

There is no discord.

Both positions are entirely compatible. Atheists who have not heard of Catholicism can be saved, if they're good.

Actually as no catholic has explained it well enough to me to convince me, I'm off to heaven and the catholics are of to hell

[Cormac]

Not So Fast, Dickheads!

Vatican Representative: Just to Be Clear, Atheists Are Still Going to Hell

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The Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Vatican spokesman, said that people who know about the Catholic church “cannot be saved” if they “refuse to enter her or remain in her.”

Pope to surrounding sycophants...

"Who shall rid me of this turbulent priest?"

[Cormac]

Doing a solo run in the face of a new pope is not likely to be a good career move.

~I think you have things the wrong way around...

That pope doing solo runs and having to be corrected is not going to go down well in the Vatican.

Remember John Paul 1st!

[klr]

Doing a solo run in the face of a new pope is not likely to be a good career move.

~I think you have things the wrong way around...

That pope doing solo runs and having to be corrected is not going to go down well in the Vatican.

Remember John Paul 1st!

There's a great line in Wall Street about that.

[NineBerry]

Francis seems to have changed his opinion

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And “this is the point,” said Pope Francis. “Always there will be the [temptation] to do good things without the scandal of the Incarnate Word, without the scandal of the Cross.” Instead, we must “be true to this scandal, to this reality that scandalises.” It is, “better this way: the coherence of the faith.” The Pope then recalled how the Apostle John says: “Those who deny that the Word came in the flesh, are from the antichrist; they are the antichrist.” On the other hand, he continued, “Only those who say that the Word is come in the flesh are of the Holy Spirit.” Pope Francis then said, “It would do us all good to think about this: the Church is not a cultural organisation that [includes] religion and social work.”:

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Text from page http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/06 ... en1-697510
of the Vatican Radio website

[klr]

Talk about overcompensating ...

[Jason]

So atheists are the antichrist and the antichrist is legion. All is well in the world again.

[klr]

Hold on, I thought the Pope was infallible. How did he get it so wrong first time around?

[Jason]

I think only pronouncements made ex cathedra are infallible. I'll have to check my Catholic's handbook.

[klr]

So, the first time, he was just thinking out loud, and so it doesn't count?

"It wasn't lies ... it was ... bullshit." - The Blues Brothers

[Jason]

I may be wrong, but I think it works sort of like Clark Kent and Superman. He's not infallible until he puts on his pope hat and good vestments.

[Jason]

Maybe the Green Latern would be a better parallel.. they both have superpower rings.

[JimC]

His real initial point was not that atheists are not cut off from all redemption, and doomed to hell. Of course we are...

It was simply telling Catholics to be nice to them...

[klr]

Of course, it is likely that this whole business will go unnoticed by most Catholics.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Of course, it is likely that this whole business will be ignored by most Catholics.