Fraternity Bans the Wearing of Confederate Uniforms

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Uhmmmmmm OK.

Geeeeez everyone is so serious this morning. What happened? Not a Good Friday?

Sweetie, I never take a Star Wars conversation seriously.

[Chinaski]

But it was for the benefit of the Empire that Alderaan was destroyed!

Who did it? The Sith. For whose benefit? The Sith's. The Empire WAS Palpatine, and Palpatine was the Empire. When Palpatine forgot how to fly the Empire was over.

The Empire ended when a) Palpatine was killed by his subordinate and b) the Rebel Alliance destroyed the second Death Star. The Skywalker/Palpatine conflict was an insignificant subplot in the greater political struggle between post-Coruscantian democrats and the totalitarian Empire. After the Death Star was destroyed and Palpatine killed, the rest of the Imperial fleet needed to be dispersed before the Rebel Alliance could establish a new democratic political order. Even a generation later, during the Yuzhaan-Vong invasion, the Imperial Remnants were still a big problem.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

But it was for the benefit of the Empire that Alderaan was destroyed!

Who did it? The Sith. For whose benefit? The Sith's. The Empire WAS Palpatine, and Palpatine was the Empire. When Palpatine forgot how to fly the Empire was over.

The Empire ended when a) Palpatine was killed by his subordinate and b) the Rebel Alliance destroyed the second Death Star. The Skywalker/Palpatine conflict was an insignificant subplot in the greater political struggle between post-Coruscantian democrats and the totalitarian Empire. After the Death Star was destroyed and Palpatine killed, the rest of the Imperial fleet needed to be dispersed before the Rebel Alliance could establish a new democratic political order. Even a generation later, during the Yuzhaan-Vong invasion, the Imperial Remnants were still a big problem.

Counseling.

[Coito ergo sum]

Some people say the confederate flag represents slavery and the defense of slavery,

Only those who live in denial would argue the confederate flag represents anything other than slavery.

You did. You said it represents racism.

[Coito ergo sum]

Hate to spoil the party, but neither is "100%" anything.

Not a bad observation.

No, its a very bad observation.

It's accurate.

[Coito ergo sum]

Affording any symbol importance by banning it merely adds weight to it. Mel Brooks has done more to break the power of the swastika than the laws forbidding its display in Germany ever could.

[Martok]

Some people say the confederate flag represents slavery and the defense of slavery,

Only those who live in denial would argue the confederate flag represents anything other than slavery.

You did. You said it represents racism.

In the US racism and slavery are linked so closely they can be viewed as the same thing.

[Martok]

Hate to spoil the party, but neither is "100%" anything.

Not a bad observation.

No, its a very bad observation.

It's accurate.

Nah, not even close to being accurate.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

In the US racism and slavery are linked so closely they can be viewed as the same thing.

True, to an extent. But being proud of your home turf is a common human failing.

[Martok]

In the US racism and slavery are linked so closely they can be viewed as the same thing.

True, to an extent. But being proud of your home turf is a common human failing.

However, being proud of the Confederacy, knowing what it stood for and why they chose to break away from the rest country, seems rather bizarre.

[Martok]

IF I were a god fearing Christian I wonder about the meaning of that tornado that plowed through Yazoo Mississippi last night. Haley Barbour is from there and he uttered that statement saying slavery didn't mean diddly.

[Coito ergo sum]

Some people say the confederate flag represents slavery and the defense of slavery,

Only those who live in denial would argue the confederate flag represents anything other than slavery.

You did. You said it represents racism.

In the US racism and slavery are linked so closely they can be viewed as the same thing.

They can be. That's a matter of opinion.

[Coito ergo sum]

In the US racism and slavery are linked so closely they can be viewed as the same thing.

True, to an extent. But being proud of your home turf is a common human failing.

However, being proud of the Confederacy, knowing what it stood for and why they chose to break away from the rest country, seems rather bizarre.

Many of those who express pride in the Confederate history don't agree with what you attribute as "what it stood for." You think they're wrong, of course. But, they disagree.

Moreover, one might argue that the United States "stood for" slavery (and some do make that argument) since it was founded by many slave owners. Even one of the greatest founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson, owned slaves, and so did the Father of our country - George Washington. I'm "proud" of this country's heritage too, though.

[kiki5711]

I love my motherland (Croatia) also. But if I see some screwed up shit there, I'll be the first one to point that out too.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

In the US racism and slavery are linked so closely they can be viewed as the same thing.

True, to an extent. But being proud of your home turf is a common human failing.

However, being proud of the Confederacy, knowing what it stood for and why they chose to break away from the rest country, seems rather bizarre.

You think the Confederacy stood ONLY for slavery?