Iceland bans all strip clubs. All of them.

[Coito ergo sum]

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God

Even without the "So help me Sky-Fairy", that's just fucking anal. (No pun intended)

I wonder why they don't use the word "king" among the foreign authorities they are to renounce. We have "prince," but not "king." I'm not even sure what country had "potentates." That sounds to me like "grand poobah."

P.S. Does George W. Shrub count as "enemies...domestic"?

No, but Obama does.

WTF?

[Coito ergo sum]

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[mistermack]

If a democratic country wants to ban this sad sleazy industry, good luck to them.
I would vote for the same in this country, if it was proposed.
That's what democracy means. You make the laws that the country wants.
And this is a good law.

[Coito ergo sum]

If a democratic country wants to ban this sad sleazy industry, good luck to them.
I would vote for the same in this country, if it was proposed.
That's what democracy means. You make the laws that the country wants.
And this is a good law.

Good for you! Much like a good Christian would do!

I wouldn't vote to bar two consenting adults from engaging in a non-violent activity in a private establishment. But, then again, that's because I'm not an uptight moralist, who seeks to impose his own morals and sensibilities on others.

[Trolldor]

Democracy is not doing what 'the country wants' at all, how fucking absurd.

[mistermack]

I wouldn't vote to bar two consenting adults from engaging in a non-violent activity in a private establishment. But, then again, that's because I'm not an uptight moralist, who seeks to impose his own morals and sensibilities on others.

You're talking crap again. There is nothing private about strip clubs. That's the point. It's selling nudity as a business.
You vote for the kind of country you want to live in. I would vote for a country without strip clubs. And faith schools. And without the death penalty.
You can't please everybody. A democratically elected govornment has the right to ban things, or even to kill you if you get convicted of a capital offence.
.

[Trolldor]

No a democratically elected "govornment" does not have the right to ban things on moral grounds.

[Ian]

I wouldn't vote to bar two consenting adults from engaging in a non-violent activity in a private establishment. But, then again, that's because I'm not an uptight moralist, who seeks to impose his own morals and sensibilities on others.

You're talking crap again. There is nothing private about strip clubs. That's the point. It's selling nudity as a business.
You vote for the kind of country you want to live in. I would vote for a country without strip clubs. And faith schools. And without the death penalty.
You can't please everybody. A democratically elected govornment has the right to ban things, or even to kill you if you get convicted of a capital offence.
.

Mistermack makes a reasonable, if fairly authoritarian, point here.
Too bad for him such a vote will never come up.
But I look forward to voting to legalize marijuana. That'll come up more and more over the next few election cycles.
And if Mistermack thinks his vote will cancel mine, I shall point out that that'll only be temporary. I'll outlive him. :twisted:

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I wouldn't vote to bar two consenting adults from engaging in a non-violent activity in a private establishment. But, then again, that's because I'm not an uptight moralist, who seeks to impose his own morals and sensibilities on others.

You're talking crap again. There is nothing private about strip clubs. That's the point. It's selling nudity as a business.
You vote for the kind of country you want to live in. I would vote for a country without strip clubs. And faith schools. And without the death penalty.
You can't please everybody. A democratically elected govornment has the right to ban things, or even to kill you if you get convicted of a capital offence.
.

You advocate banning strip clubs because the majority wants it. but you are against the death penalty, which the majority of most populations also wants.

Here's your cake. You can still have it if you eat it. Isn't that great!

[Robert_S]

What about the charity strip clubs for the poor?

[mistermack]

I wouldn't vote to bar two consenting adults from engaging in a non-violent activity in a private establishment. But, then again, that's because I'm not an uptight moralist, who seeks to impose his own morals and sensibilities on others.

You're talking crap again. There is nothing private about strip clubs. That's the point. It's selling nudity as a business.
You vote for the kind of country you want to live in. I would vote for a country without strip clubs. And faith schools. And without the death penalty.
You can't please everybody. A democratically elected govornment has the right to ban things, or even to kill you if you get convicted of a capital offence.
.

You advocate banning strip clubs because the majority wants it. but you are against the death penalty, which the majority of most populations also wants.

Here's your cake. You can still have it if you eat it. Isn't that great!

I would vote to ban strip clubs, and I would vote against the death penalty.
That's just how I would vote. Democracy doesn't work with a referendum on every law. We vote for lawmakers, and have to live by the laws they pass. This is better than having a vote on every subject, because most voters are incredibly stupid, and believe anything they read in the newspapers. So we would end up with whatever laws Rupert Murdoch wanted.

I don't regard strip clubs as a fundamental human right. The death penalty removes the most fundamental right of all. Not quite in the same league.

And Ian, I would vote to legalise pot myself. I don't get your point.

[Coito ergo sum]

What about the charity strip clubs for the poor?

A new charity: Nudes for the Needy! I mean - why should the poor not have lap dances, and why should the rich get a disproportionate share of the blowjobs in the VIP rooms? LOL

[Ian]

What about the charity strip clubs for the poor?

A new charity: Nudes for the Needy! I mean - why should the poor not have lap dances, and why should the rich get a disproportionate share of the blowjobs in the VIP rooms? LOL

Here here!

Strippers don't do nearly enough pro bono work.

[Ian]

And Ian, I would vote to legalise pot myself. I don't get your point.

My point was that you were correct about what can happen in a democracy. But I overestimated your level of uptightedness; I figured someone likely to vote to ban strip clubs of all things would also want to keep marijuana illegal. Don't know where in the history of American conservativism I would ever have gotten that idea.

[Coito ergo sum]

I wouldn't vote to bar two consenting adults from engaging in a non-violent activity in a private establishment. But, then again, that's because I'm not an uptight moralist, who seeks to impose his own morals and sensibilities on others.

You're talking crap again. There is nothing private about strip clubs. That's the point. It's selling nudity as a business.
You vote for the kind of country you want to live in. I would vote for a country without strip clubs. And faith schools. And without the death penalty.
You can't please everybody. A democratically elected govornment has the right to ban things, or even to kill you if you get convicted of a capital offence.
.

Nothing private about a strip club? Who owns them? The government? We have public strip clubs?????? Who new! I wonder if they needs-base the lap dances at the state-run boob-stores....

You sure can vote for whatever you like to vote for, but but that doesn't mean you're not imposing your morals on others when objecting to whether a grown person dances and removes her clothes in a private bar full of adults.

Yes - many things are voted on because people find them morally distasteful -- like, locking women up in jail cells for getting money in exchange for doing what they'd be otherwise free to do for nothing. But, it's still moralizing. Puts you in, well ....company.