Suicide intervention discussion

[Trolldor]

You're free to choose how you die, but that doesn't mean it's rational or logical.

The only reason being terminally ill is a logical ground is because you're going to die anyway and most probably experience some pain and agony beforehand, so it's the only clear time that you'd be able to rationally decide whether or not to end your life sooner.

[Feck]

Why do we live our lives ? since we are just DNA and I have chosen not to let mine pass on I think your logic fails ......

[Trolldor]

Survival Instinct. If you've given it up without just cause, then you aren't rational.

[Gallstones]

I don't know for sure but when I was using, suicide is what I decided had to happen and I think I was right. I stumbled into sobriety somehow and my life has been incredible ever since. Still, if I had not so stumbled, then I think blowing my head off was the logical thing to do.

If I had a serious brain disorder which was due to bad genes or the ultimate chemical imbalance and my life was a miserable mess I would think that suicide was a logical thing to do and my right.

Life is not a precious metal that we need to horde at any cost of pain and suffering. It starts, it ends, and it's all good.

I never entertained suicide until I stopped using.

Now I drink for the reasons I mentioned in an earlier post, to cut the top off the intensity, for relief enough to bear another day.

[Gallstones]

Survival Instinct. If you've given it up without just cause, then you aren't rational.

Death is inevitable for every single one of us. Why must it be natural? Why not self caused regardless of whether one is rational or not. I don't think it can be said with certainty that suicide is necessarily irrational. Some people spend years reasoning about it, the why the how and when.

[Feck]

Survival Instinct. If you've given it up without just cause, then you aren't rational.

Oh so now all human instincts become rational do they ? Massive FAIL in your rationality there, Humans defy their instincts at every turn , but that one you assume that one is sacred ?

Tell your DNA to fuck off , suicide it's the last chance you have to prove your mind controls your body, that Humans are more than eating sleeping fucking !

[Trolldor]

Yes, well, "eating, sleeping, fucking and suicidal" isn't exactly a label I'd like to adopt.

[mistermack]

Thanks cunt, I was beginning to forget what a make-believe world you inhabit.
I hope you never encounter the real world, you could do each other some REAL damage. I must try to improve my short term memory. Bye.

[kiki5711]

I don't know for sure but when I was using, suicide is what I decided had to happen and I think I was right. I stumbled into sobriety somehow and my life has been incredible ever since. Still, if I had not so stumbled, then I think blowing my head off was the logical thing to do.

If I had a serious brain disorder which was due to bad genes or the ultimate chemical imbalance and my life was a miserable mess I would think that suicide was a logical thing to do and my right.

Life is not a precious metal that we need to horde at any cost of pain and suffering. It starts, it ends, and it's all good.

I never entertained suicide until I stopped using.

Now I drink for the reasons I mentioned in an earlier post, to cut the top off the intensity, for relief enough to bear another day.

Galls,



I was wondering, but I didn't want to be nosy, "why"?

[Cunt]

Once again, I showed him that I did answer as best I could, and he goes away...

Is there some rule about Shakers that applies here?

[maiforpeace]

Once again, I showed him that I did answer as best I could, and he goes away...

Is there some rule about Shakers that applies here?

That's the second time now - third time's the charm.

[Gallstones]

Yes, well, "eating, sleeping, fucking and suicidal" isn't exactly a label I'd like to adopt.

I think it would make a great T-shirt.

[Robert_S]

Survival Instinct. If you've given it up without just cause, then you aren't rational.

At the same time, clinging to it without just cause is irrational.

[Rum]

I am 59 and looking 'old age' in the face. I am one of the older members here, but it seems to be a fact of life that until you are old it is almost impossible not to think of t as something that happens to other people. Rest assured, if you are lucky, you too will arrive here. I also have parents in their mid 80s, facing, probably quite soon, their own deaths.

I plan to make arrangements so that when it comes to it, if life is not as I would like it to be..not 'intolerable', not 'the quality of life' I would want, but the LIFE I am able to tolerate and feel comfortable with, the life I, not anyone else, wants to live, I will end it.

My choice, not anyone else's. At my age it begins to feel kind of real.

[Cunt]

iRum, I hope no-one ever takes away your right to choose, though I hope such choices are as far-off in the future as yu want them to be.