What were you before you became and atheist?

[Svartalf]

Holy is the Bacon, Those Heathens that refuse it shall be slaughtered as Gideon slaughtered the Canaanites.

And he did that with a BLT in one hand.

[Jason]

Incidentally, I've never "gotten" the sexual aspect of vampires. As such, I've only got a semi for your avatar at present ;P

The ecstasy of oral sublimation of the sex urge via an evil agency, sin personified, is the key you're looking for.

In some mythologies (Semitic ones if I'm not mistaken) the precursor to the modern 'vampires' were actually succubi and incubi who would seduce and drain a man or woman of his or her 'essence' (in the case of men this was often both physical (semen) and metaphysical) by their demonic charms and leave a dead husk. Lilith, Adam's apocryphal first wife (Ben Sira), was believed to be a succubi in some Jewish myths. This may account for the sexual aspect of vampires in folklore - they are often described as supernaturally seductive.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Incidentally, I've never "gotten" the sexual aspect of vampires. As such, I've only got a semi for your avatar at present ;P

The ecstasy of oral sublimation of the sex urge via an evil agency, sin personified, is the key you're looking for.

In some mythologies (Semitic ones if I'm not mistaken) the precursor to the modern 'vampires' were actually succubi and incubi who would seduce and drain a man or woman of his or her 'essence' (in the case of men this was often both physical (semen) and metaphysical) by their demonic charms and leave a dead husk. Lilith, Adam's apocryphal first wife (Ben Sira), was believed to be a succubi in some Jewish myths. This may account for the sexual aspect of vampires in folklore - they are often described as supernaturally seductive.

Yep, and the naughtiness extended to vampires from that source. Stoker wasn't highly original, he was one of the first to "go there" with the material. The Victorians loved it.

[Exi5tentialist]

Never been anything but an atheist. Live with it.

Are you sure about that? 'Never' is a very religious idea.

[Svartalf]

One of the first to "go there"? Who you ribbing Zilla?
among the first, pre victorian, vampire story, was that shameless rake and seducer, Lord Ruthven, by Lord Byron and John Polidory.
Varney the Vampire was steamy to fogginess.
Shall I mention the highly erotic athmosphere of Le Fanu's Carmilla?

[Geoff]

Never been anything but an atheist. Live with it.

Are you sure about that? 'Never' is a very religious idea.

No it isn't.

[Svartalf]

Stop that tug of war, Dick whittington ends up Lord Mayor of London by the end of the panto.

[Eriku]

Incidentally, I've never "gotten" the sexual aspect of vampires. As such, I've only got a semi for your avatar at present ;P

The ecstasy of oral sublimation of the sex urge via an evil agency, sin personified, is the key you're looking for.

I can get rationalisations, but I consider myself a being with a sense of what is and isn't sexual, and I just don't get it, yet some people like the blend *scratches head*

Considering your present incarnation I wouldn't dream of it *shiftily glances at avatar*

Incidentally, I've never "gotten" the sexual aspect of vampires. As such, I've only got a semi for your avatar at present ;P

Personally they're not my thing either, but one must fit in at Halloween!

<--- sans fangs

By all means, just making banter



Not enough of that in my life at the moment, so I'm having it with relish.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Never been anything but an atheist. Live with it.

Are you sure about that? 'Never' is a very religious idea.

Dumbass ideas aside, no it's not.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

One of the first to "go there"? Who you ribbing Zilla?
among the first, pre victorian, vampire story, was that shameless rake and seducer, Lord Ruthven, by Lord Byron and John Polidory.
Varney the Vampire was steamy to fogginess.
Shall I mention the highly erotic athmosphere of Le Fanu's Carmilla?

And I wouldn't have a clue what you're talking about.

[Exi5tentialist]

Never been anything but an atheist. Live with it.

Are you sure about that? 'Never' is a very religious idea.

No it isn't.

Only God is eternal. To deny something into eternity is to make an alliance with God. Therefore 'never' is a deeply, deeply religious idea. I would never use the word, personally.

[Svartalf]

One of the first to "go there"? Who you ribbing Zilla?
among the first, pre victorian, vampire story, was that shameless rake and seducer, Lord Ruthven, by Lord Byron and John Polidory.
Varney the Vampire was steamy to fogginess.
Shall I mention the highly erotic athmosphere of Le Fanu's Carmilla?

And I wouldn't have a clue what you're talking about.

Vampire stuff written 75-25 years before Dracula, that 'went there'.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Only God is eternal.

Bald assertion without evidence.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

One of the first to "go there"? Who you ribbing Zilla?
among the first, pre victorian, vampire story, was that shameless rake and seducer, Lord Ruthven, by Lord Byron and John Polidory.
Varney the Vampire was steamy to fogginess.
Shall I mention the highly erotic athmosphere of Le Fanu's Carmilla?

And I wouldn't have a clue what you're talking about.

Vampire stuff written 75-25 years before Dracula, that 'went there'.

Not with me it didn't.

[Schneibster]

Shall I mention the highly erotic athmosphere of Le Fanu's Carmilla?

I had despaired of finding anyone else who'd actually read Le Fanu. My sister is a huge fan; I've never been able to figure out why, despite reading a book full of short stories she recommended.