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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:01 am

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Yes, these all fail to support your assertion, DaveDildo.

...so can we take that as an admission that you're absolutely clueless?

Alternatively, we'll just have to assume that you don't even know how clueless you are.


Either way the point is made.
Men's brains are on average 10% bigger than female brains, this is a fact. Though to be fair I'm not sure what 'brainy' means and I need a definition.
You need more than a definition, DaveDildo.
All that extra brain mass, and you still can't put forward a decent argument.
:thinks: What does that tell you about brain mass and intelligence?
I'm still waiting for you to show my links are erroneous.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:55 pm

Do you recognize that "men have 10% more brain power than women percentage wise even when they are the same size and body weight," and "there is an average 3% difference in IQ scores" are not equivalent statements?

I can see at least a couple of significant distinctions. For one thing, the two statements differ in the number mentioned. For another, it is generally understood that IQ scores only measure one aspect of intelligence, therefore even if it is agreed that there is a difference in average IQ scores between men and women, that does not necessarily mean that men have more "brain power" than women.

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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by JimC » Fri Oct 30, 2015 11:11 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:Do you recognize that "men have 10% more brain power than women percentage wise even when they are the same size and body weight," and "there is an average 3% difference in IQ scores" are not equivalent statements?

I can see at least a couple of significant distinctions. For one thing, the two statements differ in the number mentioned. For another, it is generally understood that IQ scores only measure one aspect of intelligence, therefore even if it is agreed that there is a difference in average IQ scores between men and women, that does not necessarily mean that men have more "brain power" than women.
Additionally, with the IQ comparison, one would have to be sure one was comparing 2 cohorts similar in both socio-economic background, and with equivalent levels of formal education.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Oct 30, 2015 11:59 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:Do you recognize that "men have 10% more brain power than women percentage wise even when they are the same size and body weight," and "there is an average 3% difference in IQ scores" are not equivalent statements?

I can see at least a couple of significant distinctions. For one thing, the two statements differ in the number mentioned. For another, it is generally understood that IQ scores only measure one aspect of intelligence, therefore even if it is agreed that there is a difference in average IQ scores between men and women, that does not necessarily mean that men have more "brain power" than women.
First off I said men have on average 10% bigger brains, what the fuck is brain power? I also understand the limitations of IQ tests as in they are only valid in countries where education is free. Though show me a better way of gauging intelligence?
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:02 am

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L'Emmerdeur wrote:Do you recognize that "men have 10% more brain power than women percentage wise even when they are the same size and body weight," and "there is an average 3% difference in IQ scores" are not equivalent statements?

I can see at least a couple of significant distinctions. For one thing, the two statements differ in the number mentioned. For another, it is generally understood that IQ scores only measure one aspect of intelligence, therefore even if it is agreed that there is a difference in average IQ scores between men and women, that does not necessarily mean that men have more "brain power" than women.
Additionally, with the IQ comparison, one would have to be sure one was comparing 2 cohorts similar in both socio-economic background, and with equivalent levels of formal education.
This is true but trivally so, in countries were education is free then IQ scores are valid.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by surreptitious57 » Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:42 pm

Einsteins brain was merely of average size. Though his pre frontal cortex was some fifteen per cent larger than
average. That is the part of the brain which deals with logical thought and problem solving. And so rather than
view the entire brain as such one should instead be looking at a specific region of it with regard to intelligence
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:02 am

DaveDodo007 wrote: First off I said men have on average 10% bigger brains, what the fuck is brain power?
DaveDodo007 wrote:...The same could be said for intellectual pursuits as men have 10% more brain power than women percentage wise even when they are the same size and body weight.

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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:26 pm

DaveDodo007 wrote:
L'Emmerdeur wrote:Do you recognize that "men have 10% more brain power than women percentage wise even when they are the same size and body weight," and "there is an average 3% difference in IQ scores" are not equivalent statements?

I can see at least a couple of significant distinctions. For one thing, the two statements differ in the number mentioned. For another, it is generally understood that IQ scores only measure one aspect of intelligence, therefore even if it is agreed that there is a difference in average IQ scores between men and women, that does not necessarily mean that men have more "brain power" than women.
First off I said men have on average 10% bigger brains, what the fuck is brain power? I also understand the limitations of IQ tests as in they are only valid in countries where education is free. Though show me a better way of gauging intelligence?
I quoted you directly in regards to your assertion that "men have 10% more brain power than women," as Brian Peacock's post directly above shows. So, it's on you to define your term "brain power," not me.

Perhaps you might also spend some time educating yourself on the limitations of IQ tests, because they're more extensive than being "only valid in countries where education is free." That assertion is not accurate, and does not address the actual limitations of IQ tests.

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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:26 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote: First off I said men have on average 10% bigger brains, what the fuck is brain power?
DaveDodo007 wrote:...The same could be said for intellectual pursuits as men have 10% more brain power than women percentage wise even when they are the same size and body weight.

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It was stupid when I said it because it doesn't make sense, so call me out on it rather than running with it.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:40 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
L'Emmerdeur wrote:Do you recognize that "men have 10% more brain power than women percentage wise even when they are the same size and body weight," and "there is an average 3% difference in IQ scores" are not equivalent statements?

I can see at least a couple of significant distinctions. For one thing, the two statements differ in the number mentioned. For another, it is generally understood that IQ scores only measure one aspect of intelligence, therefore even if it is agreed that there is a difference in average IQ scores between men and women, that does not necessarily mean that men have more "brain power" than women.
First off I said men have on average 10% bigger brains, what the fuck is brain power? I also understand the limitations of IQ tests as in they are only valid in countries where education is free. Though show me a better way of gauging intelligence?
I quoted you directly in regards to your assertion that "men have 10% more brain power than women," as Brian Peacock's post directly above shows. So, it's on you to define your term "brain power," not me.

Perhaps you might also spend some time educating yourself on the limitations of IQ tests, because they're more extensive than being "only valid in countries where education is free." That assertion is not accurate, and does not address the actual limitations of IQ tests.
I will hold my hand up and admit using 'brain power' was stupid even in a comment section of a forum. It has been three decades since I studied brain neurology so even then I should know better. With all things being equal what have you got against IQ tests?
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:45 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:Einsteins brain was merely of average size. Though his pre frontal cortex was some fifteen per cent larger than
average. That is the part of the brain which deals with logical thought and problem solving. And so rather than
view the entire brain as such one should instead be looking at a specific region of it with regard to intelligence
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:39 pm

DaveDodo007 wrote:With all things being equal what have you got against IQ tests?
I don't have any personal problem with IQ tests. Scientists have known for some time that they only measure a particular aspect of intelligence. This goes back at least to Howard Gardner and his idea of multiple intelligences.
The theory of multiple intelligences was developed in 1983 by Dr. Howard Gardner, professor of education at Harvard University. It suggests that the traditional notion of intelligence, based on I.Q. testing, is far too limited. Instead, Dr. Gardner proposes eight different intelligences to account for a broader range of human potential in children and adults.
For a more recent take on the limitations of the traditional IQ test:

"Scientists debunk the IQ myth: Notion of measuring one's intelligence quotient by singular, standardized test is highly misleading" | ScienceDaily
Utilizing an online study open to anyone, anywhere in the world, the researchers asked respondents to complete 12 cognitive tests tapping memory, reasoning, attention and planning abilities, as well as a survey about their background and lifestyle habits.

. . .

The results showed that when a wide range of cognitive abilities are explored, the observed variations in performance can only be explained with at least three distinct components: short-term memory, reasoning and a verbal component.

No one component, or IQ, explained everything. Furthermore, the scientists used a brain scanning technique known as functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), to show that these differences in cognitive ability map onto distinct circuits in the brain.

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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:08 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote: First off I said men have on average 10% bigger brains, what the fuck is brain power?
DaveDodo007 wrote:...The same could be said for intellectual pursuits as men have 10% more brain power than women percentage wise even when they are the same size and body weight.

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It was stupid when I said it because it doesn't make sense, so call me out on it rather than running with it.
I did call you out on it. That's when you started saying you were talking about brain mass not ntelligence. You remember, it was part of your screed about how women are physically and intellectually inferior to men because of evolution.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:28 am

If this doesn't sum it up what does.

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Post by Hermit » Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:59 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:If this doesn't sum it up what does.

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The only thing the cartoon sums up is your view of the typical feminist.
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