Toldjaso! - WMDs in Iraq

[pErvinalia]

Your are the only absolutist ideologue on these boards. And the only one who regularly professes hatred of one or another social group. And your posts most definitely display stupidity in gross amounts.

[Seth]

Your are the only absolutist ideologue on these boards.

Yeah, right.

And the only one who regularly professes hatred of one or another social group.

Only one: Marxists. Hating Marxists is a social duty in a free society. And I'm hardly alone when it comes to hating one or another social group. You demonstrate severe intolerance with regularity.

And your posts most definitely display stupidity in gross amounts.

They only appear stupid to the stupid.

[rainbow]

Facts: Sarin was found in Iraq after Saddam refused 14 times to comply with WMD inspections he agreed to as part of the cease fire agreement, so hostilities were resumed. QED.

Drivel.

[mistermack]

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You do realize that you've shot your entire argument squarely in the foot by doing so, right?

Not in the slightest.
I made the point that you don't even know the difference between a weapon, and ammunition.
And you've proved it over and over again. The fact that you keep tap-dancing around the turd that you laid doesn't make it smell any sweeter.
It just makes you look stupid.

[Seth]

Facts: Sarin was found in Iraq after Saddam refused 14 times to comply with WMD inspections he agreed to as part of the cease fire agreement, so hostilities were resumed. QED.

Drivel.

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

[rainbow]

Facts: Sarin was found in Iraq after Saddam refused 14 times to comply with WMD inspections he agreed to as part of the cease fire agreement, so hostilities were resumed. QED.

Drivel.

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

I guess it does. It must really hurt for you to realise that the entire reason for invading Iraq was based on a lie.


Get over it.

[Seth]

[
You do realize that you've shot your entire argument squarely in the foot by doing so, right?

Not in the slightest.
I made the point that you don't even know the difference between a weapon, and ammunition.
And you've proved it over and over again. The fact that you keep tap-dancing around the turd that you laid doesn't make it smell any sweeter.
It just makes you look stupid.

It's you who doesn't know the difference between a weapon and ammunition. All ammunition are components of projectile weapons, but not all weapons are ammunition, nor are all weapons projectiles. And in this case, what was both ammunition and weapons ceased to be functional projectile ammunition but remained functional weapons of mass destruction.

[Seth]

Facts: Sarin was found in Iraq after Saddam refused 14 times to comply with WMD inspections he agreed to as part of the cease fire agreement, so hostilities were resumed. QED.

Drivel.

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

I guess it does. It must really hurt for you to realise that the entire reason for invading Iraq was based on a lie.


Get over it.

No, it wasn't. It was based on Saddam's refusal to abide by the cease-fire agreement, his refusal to permit UN WMD inspections, and his attempts to convince the world that he was running WMD biological and nuclear programs, which worked far better than he anticipated.

If it looks like a duck, and it waddles like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, then it's not unreasonable to presume it's a duck until other information is found to the contrary, especially if the duck is capable of killing hundreds or thousands or millions of people at one time and has a documented history of murdering and torturing other ducks in the flock with impunity. In such cases, you kill the duck and remove the threat and worry about mistaking the duck for a platypus later. It's no great loss if one duck, or one platypus is killed and it turns out it was not actually the threat one believed it to be.

[rainbow]

No, it wasn't. It was based on Saddam's refusal to abide by the cease-fire agreement, his refusal to permit UN WMD inspections, and his attempts to convince the world that he was running WMD biological and nuclear programs, which worked far better than he anticipated.

You don't even realise that this makes no sense at all.

This was the line spun by the Bush Admin, which you swallowed. Did you not even question why, if he had all these WMD, he didn't use them?

I had not realised that there were still Merkins, who still hadn't worked that one out.

[Seth]

No, it wasn't. It was based on Saddam's refusal to abide by the cease-fire agreement, his refusal to permit UN WMD inspections, and his attempts to convince the world that he was running WMD biological and nuclear programs, which worked far better than he anticipated.

You don't even realise that this makes no sense at all.

This was the line spun by the Bush Admin, which you swallowed. Did you not even question why, if he had all these WMD, he didn't use them?

He did use them, to kill his own people, the Kurds. That's precisely why taking him down was necessary and lawful.

Why he didn't use them on American troops is pretty obvious. If he had done so during the Kuwait invasion he wouldn't have lasted a week. Also, he was an insane despot, so figuring out his strategy is something less than easy.

But it doesn't matter whether he used them or not, he had them, denied he had them, concealed them, refused to allow inspectors to inventory them, failed to destroy them and violated UN resolutions 14 times in 12 years in violation of the terms of the cease fire, which is all that was required to justify resuming hostilities.

[pErvinalia]

He was insane was he, Dr Seth?

[Seth]

He was insane was he, Dr Seth?

It's pretty clear that he was a megalomaniacal psychopathic sociopath of monumental proportions. Just look at his kids Uday and Kusay. Don't really need an MD to figure that out.

[pErvinalia]

Ok, Dr Seth.

[JimC]

Ok, Dr Seth.

AKA Dr Death...

[rainbow]

He did use them, to kill his own people, the Kurds. That's precisely why taking him down was necessary and lawful.

Didn't seem to be a big problem for the US at that time.

Rumsfeld 'helped Iraq get chemical weapons'

By WILLIAM LOWTHER, Daily Mail

US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld helped Saddam Hussein build up his arsenal of deadly chemical and biological weapons, it was revealed last night.


As an envoy from President Reagan 19 years ago, he had a secret meeting with the Iraqi dictator and arranged enormous military assistance for his war with Iran.


The CIA had already warned that Iraq was using chemical weapons almost daily. But Mr Rumsfeld, at the time a successful executive in the pharmaceutical industry, still made it possible for Saddam to buy supplies from American firms.


They included viruses such as anthrax and bubonic plague, according to the Washington Post.

The extraordinary details have come to light because thousands of State Department documents dealing with the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war have just been declassified and released under the Freedom of Information Act.


At the very least, it is highly embarrassing for 70-year-old Mr Rumsfeld, who is the most powerful and vocal of all the hawks surrounding President Bush.


He bitterly condemns Saddam as a ruthless and brutal monster and frequently backs up his words by citing the use of the very weapons which it now appears he helped to supply.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3H4368Iyr

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... apons.html


Quite a Selective Memory you have there, Seth.