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Re: Have I fucked up?

Post by GenesForLife » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:19 am

Also.
Anencephaly is a defect in the closure of the neural tube during fetal development. The neural tube is a narrow channel that folds and closes between the 3rd and 4th weeks of pregnancy to form the brain and spinal cord of the embryo. Anencephaly occurs when the "cephalic" or head end of the neural tube fails to close, resulting in the absence of a major portion of the brain, skull, and scalp. Infants with this disorder are born without a forebrain (the front part of the brain) and a cerebrum (the thinking and coordinating part of the brain). The remaining brain tissue is often exposed--not covered by bone or skin. A baby born with anencephaly is usually blind, deaf, unconscious, and unable to feel pain. Although some individuals with anencephaly may be born with a rudimentary brain stem, the lack of a functioning cerebrum permanently rules out the possibility of ever gaining consciousness. Reflex actions such as breathing and responses to sound or touch may occur.
http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/anen ... ephaly.htm

Tell her it is game over, because that, if anything, demonstrates that there is a direct causal link between having a functioning forebrain and consciousness, if all people, according to her, have preprogrammed souls which generate consciousness, indpendent of the material brain, these anencephalics, it follows, must show consciousness, but they don't , therefore there cannot be consciousness independent of a material brain, and therefore the idea of an immaterial, independent soul that provides consciousness is turgid drivel of the most dimwitted order, in other words, paying attention to reality says SHE IS WRONG.

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Re: Have I fucked up?

Post by Feck » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:22 am

Beautiful work GFL :clap: Shame the God- Bods NEVER listen .
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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:56 pm

She hasn't replied to it yet. :dono: She's been posting elsewhere, though.

She posted a goodun about the worlds oldest bible has been found. Yep Radiocarbon dating has dated it to around 330 AD. :think:

Of course I was sure to point out that radiocarbon dating makes thing out to be a lot older than it really is.

It must be about 2 years old. :funny:
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Re: Have I fucked up?

Post by GenesForLife » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:07 pm

Deep Sea Isopod wrote:She hasn't replied to it yet. :dono: She's been posting elsewhere, though.

She posted a goodun about the worlds oldest bible has been found. Yep Radiocarbon dating has dated it to around 330 AD. :think:

Of course I was sure to point out that radiocarbon dating makes thing out to be a lot older than it really is.

It must be about 2 years old. :funny:
She's not the Xtian fundie variety, though, mate.

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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:10 pm

Still no reply though. She's moved onto other threads to preach her nonsense. You win. :D
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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:11 pm

GenesForLife wrote:
Deep Sea Isopod wrote:She hasn't replied to it yet. :dono: She's been posting elsewhere, though.

She posted a goodun about the worlds oldest bible has been found. Yep Radiocarbon dating has dated it to around 330 AD. :think:

Of course I was sure to point out that radiocarbon dating makes thing out to be a lot older than it really is.

It must be about 2 years old. :funny:
She's not the Xtian fundie variety, though, mate.

What type is she?
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Re: Have I fucked up?

Post by GenesForLife » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:26 am

General theist with a strong predisposition for Hindu woo, New age theosophical type.

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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:24 pm

She's posted this. Very interesting. I learned something today. :ugeek:

http://www.allthingsscience.com/video/7 ... dard-Model
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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:22 pm

GenesForLife wrote:General theist with a strong predisposition for Hindu woo, New age theosophical type.

That's it. I quit. First she goes on about scientists argue and cannot agree, evolution is a lie yada yada, and the usual creationist bullshit, then she's on about this:
"This is in the Higgs Mechanism. How mass itself came to be. Science is where they research the unknown. 12 types of matter particles have already been observed. But the standard modal does not realy work. Mass is the hole in the standard modal and the best theory is the higgs mechanism."

Is that typical of the "New age theosophical type"? I can't debate this!
All I know about Higgs boson, is that they're trying to make one in the big hardon collisionator thingy. :?


Why can't they just stick to floating zoo's and talking snakes. :nono:
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Re: Have I fucked up?

Post by GenesForLife » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:41 pm

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GenesForLife wrote:General theist with a strong predisposition for Hindu woo, New age theosophical type.

That's it. I quit. First she goes on about scientists argue and cannot agree, evolution is a lie yada yada, and the usual creationist bullshit, then she's on about this:
"This is in the Higgs Mechanism. How mass itself came to be. Science is where they research the unknown. 12 types of matter particles have already been observed. But the standard modal does not realy work. Mass is the hole in the standard modal and the best theory is the higgs mechanism."

Is that typical of the "New age theosophical type"? I can't debate this!
All I know about Higgs boson, is that they're trying to make one in the big hardon collisionator thingy. :?


Why can't they just stick to floating zoo's and talking snakes. :nono:
Scientists argue and cannot agree on the basis of hypotheses alone, but when they do provide evidence, as has been pointed out to her so many fucking times, it is no more anything that depends on opinion, one more thing, the Higgs boson is a PART of the Standard Model and NOT a separate entity, and there isn't a competing "Higgs mechanism" involved, she needs to start reading her stuff properly before pretending to be a duplicitous authority on the subject.
The Higgs boson is a hypothetical massive scalar elementary particle predicted to exist by the Standard Model in particle physics. At present there are no known elementary scalar (spin-0) particles in nature, although many composite spin-0 particles are known. The existence of the particle is postulated as a means of resolving inconsistencies in current theoretical physics, and attempts are being made to confirm the existence of the particle by experimentation, using the Large Hadron Collider (LHC). Other theories exist that do not anticipate the Higgs boson, described elsewhere as the Higgsless model.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson

Also ask her what the frickin' point of her wibble is.

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Re: Have I fucked up?

Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:53 pm

GenesForLife wrote:
Deep Sea Isopod wrote:
GenesForLife wrote:General theist with a strong predisposition for Hindu woo, New age theosophical type.

That's it. I quit. First she goes on about scientists argue and cannot agree, evolution is a lie yada yada, and the usual creationist bullshit, then she's on about this:
"This is in the Higgs Mechanism. How mass itself came to be. Science is where they research the unknown. 12 types of matter particles have already been observed. But the standard modal does not realy work. Mass is the hole in the standard modal and the best theory is the higgs mechanism."

Is that typical of the "New age theosophical type"? I can't debate this!
All I know about Higgs boson, is that they're trying to make one in the big hardon collisionator thingy. :?


Why can't they just stick to floating zoo's and talking snakes. :nono:
Scientists argue and cannot agree on the basis of hypotheses alone, but when they do provide evidence, as has been pointed out to her so many fucking times, it is no more anything that depends on opinion, one more thing, the Higgs boson is a PART of the Standard Model and NOT a separate entity, and there isn't a competing "Higgs mechanism" involved, she needs to start reading her stuff properly before pretending to be a duplicitous authority on the subject.
The Higgs boson is a hypothetical massive scalar elementary particle predicted to exist by the Standard Model in particle physics. At present there are no known elementary scalar (spin-0) particles in nature, although many composite spin-0 particles are known. The existence of the particle is postulated as a means of resolving inconsistencies in current theoretical physics, and attempts are being made to confirm the existence of the particle by experimentation, using the Large Hadron Collider (LHC). Other theories exist that do not anticipate the Higgs boson, described elsewhere as the Higgsless model.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson

Also ask her what the frickin' point of her wibble is.
The point was how particles of matter attracted each other together after the BB, to for dust and rocks etc. Hence the video in my previous post.
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Re: Have I fucked up?

Post by GenesForLife » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:58 pm

Accretion is a product of mass, standard gravity applies, and mass is explained by the standard model through postulated Higgs bosons.

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Re: Have I fucked up?

Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:00 pm

GenesForLife wrote:
Scientists argue and cannot agree on the basis of hypotheses alone, but when they do provide evidence, as has been pointed out to her so many fucking times,

I've Just read, it's the creation scientists who don't agree with the real scientists. :roll:
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Re: Have I fucked up?

Post by GenesForLife » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:04 pm

Oxymoron Alert

Scratch that - moron alert. :biggrin:

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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:13 pm

GenesForLife wrote:Oxymoron Alert

Scratch that - moron alert. :biggrin:

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I just posted a link to Lehigh University's disclaimer of a certain "cretin scientist", and pointed out ID is debunked bullshit.
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