Women: employment or child care?

[ficklefiend]

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[Pappa]

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[devogue]

Mrs Dev stays at home and looks after the children while I go to work.

We both feel incredibly lucky to be in a financial position to be able to do that. Our next door neighbours both have to go to work and their children stay with their grandmother.

[Horwood Beer-Master]

My Dad is currently having to look after my little Nephew 5 days a week as my Sister and Brother-in-law are both working now, however they've finally managed to sort out a nursery place for him (well, he's been at the top of the waiting list at the nursery for months now - but the waiting list doesn't appear to move very often) which he starts in October.

After that my Dad can start piecing together the remaining scraps of his sanity.

[DRSB]

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[eXcommunicate]

I'll go ahead and buck the trend here and say that married people should pay more taxes.

1. They split their overhead when compared to singles. Combining their incomes provides benefits over the individual income of a single person, so I don't see why their combined income shouldn't be allowed to kick them into the next marginal bracket.

2. If they have children, those children (if they attend public school) are soaking up public resources.

[Kristie]

I'll go ahead and buck the trend here and say that married people should pay more taxes.

1. They split their overhead when compared to singles. Combining their incomes provides benefits over the individual income of a single person, so I don't see why their combined income shouldn't be allowed to kick them into the next marginal bracket.

2. If they have children, those children (if they attend public school) are soaking up public resources.

[Trolldor]

I'll go ahead and buck the trend here and say that married people should pay more taxes.

1. They split their overhead when compared to singles. Combining their incomes provides benefits over the individual income of a single person, so I don't see why their combined income shouldn't be allowed to kick them into the next marginal bracket.

2. If they have children, those children (if they attend public school) are soaking up public resources.

...it is more costly to be married than be single.

[floppit]

I'll go ahead and buck the trend here and say that married people should pay more taxes.

1. They split their overhead when compared to singles. Combining their incomes provides benefits over the individual income of a single person, so I don't see why their combined income shouldn't be allowed to kick them into the next marginal bracket.

2. If they have children, those children (if they attend public school) are soaking up public resources.

We probably should but.......

































Life's not fair! :twisted:

[kiki5711]

Valid point. Certainly in the general case, I think "parents work, retired grandparents take care of kids" is actually a good model. However, given our ages, I don't think we'll be able to provide much care for children of my daughter - unless she gets pregnant as a teen, which isn't something I hope to see. Gambling on her husband having parents of the appropriate age with an interest in child care seems chancy at best.

why is that a great model? unless the grandparents are really up to taking care of small kids willingly all day long, most grandparents get "stuck" in the position of babysitting out of guilt. When you've worked all your life and finally get to relax a little and dealing with all new ailments that age brings, what makes you think, watching small kids all day is a "gift of joy"?

the best thing about being a grandparent is that you get to spoil your grandkids when they visit, but at the end of the day, they go back home to momma.

I think it's cruel to impose that on the elderly if other choices are there.

[Trolldor]

Day Care is too expensive because it is privatised and not subsidised by the Govt.

For some families they would, working full time, earn less money with a double income than single-income with mother caring for child.

[kiki5711]

dishing out money for day care is part of having kids. when my kids were small, my babysitter made more money than I did. I had to keep my job though for the future when they get older and don't have to spend as much on daycare as they would be in school most of the day. then it was to find someone for just a few hours till I got home. then it was doing dinner, homework, washing up, sleep time. Basically a 15 hour day.

Now if I was able to afford a live in nanny, although I don't know where she would sleep, maybe on living room couch, I would definetly hire one.

[eXcommunicate]

I'll go ahead and buck the trend here and say that married people should pay more taxes.

1. They split their overhead when compared to singles. Combining their incomes provides benefits over the individual income of a single person, so I don't see why their combined income shouldn't be allowed to kick them into the next marginal bracket.

2. If they have children, those children (if they attend public school) are soaking up public resources.

...it is more costly to be married than be single.

Two people married, each making $40K, for a total of $80K. They share a house, split the bills, and contribute to each others retirement. Why should they pay less in taxes than a single person who makes $80K who has to shoulder those burdens herself?

The tax credits per child are asinine. There, I said it. Let the parents shoulder the same tax burden as any other household, especially when it is their children who are the ones using the tax dollars for education.

[Trolldor]

They pay less in taxes because they're earning 40k, not 80k.
And, because two people living together more than doubles costs, not an equal increase.

[eXcommunicate]

They pay less in taxes because they're earning 40k, not 80k.

They are one household under the law.

And, because two people living together more than doubles costs, not an equal increase.

You have to be kidding. Have anything to back that up? I'd be glad to be educated.