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Re: Excerpts of excellence

Post by Pappa » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:40 am

Charlou wrote:Kafka
I ♥ Kafka.
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Post by Trolldor » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:16 am

I got bored of Kafka.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Re: Excerpts of excellence

Post by Pappa » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:34 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:I got bored of Kafka.
You're dead to me now.

Have you read the Castle and Amerika?
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Post by Trolldor » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:38 am

Last thing I read was... I think 'metamorphosis'.
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Post by Pappa » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:08 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:Last thing I read was... I think 'metamorphosis'.
It's ok, but nowhere near his best. The Trial is his best novel. The other two novels are actually unfinished (one ends part way through a sentence) and both also make very little sense at all, but I still think they are fucking brilliant.
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Re: Excerpts of excellence

Post by DRSB » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:32 pm

"Eugene Onegin", an absolutely delightful read: http://lib.ru/LITRA/PUSHKIN/ENGLISH/onegin_j.txt

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"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Post by AnInconvenientScotsman » Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:28 pm

From John Stuart Mill's On Liberty:

"If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind"

From Nelson Mandela's Long Walk To Freedom:

"It was during those long and lonely years that my hunger for the freedom of my own people became a hunger for the freedom of all people, white and black. I knew as well as I knew anything that the oppressor must be liberated just as surely as the oppressed. A man who takes away another man's freedom is a prisoner of hatred, he is locked behind the bars of prejudice and narrow-mindedness. I am not truly free if I am taking away someone else's freedom, just as surely as I am not free when my freedom is taken from me. The oppressed and the oppressor alike are robbed of their humanity... For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. The true test of our devotion to freedom is just beginning."

Harry S. Truman:

"Of course, there are dangers in religious freedom and freedom of opinion. But to deny these rights is worse than dangerous, it is absolutely fatal to liberty. The external threat to liberty should not drive us into suppressing liberty at home. Those who want the Government to regulate matters of the mind and spirit are like men who are so afraid of being murdered that they commit suicide to avoid assassination."
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Re: Excerpts of excellence

Post by drl2 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:43 pm

I'm really not much of a poetry person (whenever I try to write a poem I'm looking for a rhyme for Nantucket by the end of the first line), so I'm rather surprised at the first couple of things that sprang to mind:

The Cottage of Lost Play

We knew that land once, You and I,
and once we wandered there
in the long days now long gone by,
a dark child and a fair.
Was it on the paths of firelight thought
in winter cold and white,
or in the blue-spun twilit hours
of little early tucked-up beds
in drowsy summer night,
that you and I in Sleep went down
to meet each other there,
your dark hair on your white nightgown
and mine was tangled fair?

We wandered shyly hand in hand,
small footprints in the golden sand,
and gathered pearls and shells in pails,
while all about the nightingales
were singing in the trees.
We dug for silver with our spades,
and caught the sparkle of the seas,
then ran ashore to greenlit glades,
and found the warm and winding lane
that now we cannot find again,
between tall whispering trees.

There was neither night nor day,
an ever-eve of gloaming light,
when first there glimmered into sight
the Little House of Play.
New-built it was, yet very old,
white, and thatched with straws of gold,
and pierced with peeping lattices
that looked toward the sea;
and our own children's garden-plots
were there: our own forget-me-nots,
red daisies, cress and mustard,
and radishes for tea.
There all the borders, trimmed with box,
were filled with favourite flowers, with phlox,
with lupins, pinks, and hollyhocks,
beneath a red may-tree;
and all the gardens full of folk
that their own little language spoke,
but not to You and Me.

For some had silver watering-cans
and watered all their gowns,
or sprayed each other; some laid plans
to build their houses, little towns
and dwellings in the trees.
And some were clambering on the roof;
some crooning lonely and aloof;
some dancing round the fairy-rings
all garlanded in daisy-strings,
while some upon their knees
before a little white-robed king
crowned with marigold would sing
their rhymes of long ago.
But side by side a little pair
with heads together, mingled hair,
went walking to and fro
still hand in hand; and what they said,
ere Waking far apart them led,
that only we now know.

-- JRR Tolkien



For some reason I dredged up the memory of two of Milton's works which were deliberately set as counterpoints to one another:

Il Penseroso and L'Allegro


I liked Mark Twain's "The War Prayer" even before I became an evil militant atheist:

"O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle -- be Thou near them! With them -- in spirit -- we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it -- for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
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Post by DRSB » Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:16 pm

He will hold thee, when his passion shall have spent its novel force,
Something better than his dog, a little dearer than his horse.

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Post by Trolldor » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:55 pm

"Virginity is a precious gift. Please give generously."

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"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Re: Excerpts of excellence

Post by Animavore » Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:46 pm

Cancer’s a Funny Thing

I wish I had the voice of Homer
To sing of rectal carcinoma,
Which kills a lot more chaps, in fact,
Than were bumped off when Troy was sacked.
Yet, thanks to modern surgeon’s skills,
It can be killed before it kills
Upon a scientific basis
In nineteen out of twenty cases.
I noticed I was passing blood
(Only a few drops, not a flood).
So pausing on my homeward way
From Tallahassee to Bombay
I asked a doctor, now my friend,
To peer into my hinder end,
To prove or to disprove the rumour
That I had a malignant tumour.
They pumped in BaS04.
Till I could really stand no more,
And, when sufficient had been pressed in,
They photographed my large intestine,
In order to decide the issue
They next scraped out some bits of tissue.
(Before they did so, some good pal
Had knocked me out with pentothal,
Whose action is extremely quick,
And does not leave me feeling sick.)
The microscope returned the answer
That I had certainly got cancer,
So I was wheeled into the theatre
Where holes were made to make me better.
One set is in my perineurn
Where I can feel, but can’t yet see ‘em.
Another made me like a kipper
Or female prey of Jack the Ripper,
Through this incision, I don’t doubt,
The neoplasm was taken out,
Along with colon, and lymph nodes
Where cancer cells might find abodes.
A third much smaller hole is meant
To function as a ventral vent:
So now I am like two-faced Janus
The only* god who sees his anus.
I’ll swear, without the risk of perjury,
It was a snappy bit of surgery.
My rectum is a serious loss to me,
But I’ve a very neat colostomy,
And hope, as soon as I am able,
To make it keep a fixed time-table.
So do not wait for aches and pains
To have a surgeon mend your drains;
If he says “cancer” you’re a dunce
Unless you have it out at once,
For if you wait it’s sure to swell,
And may have progeny as well.
My final word, before I’m done,
Is “Cancer can be rather fun”.
Thanks to the nurses and Nye Bevan
The NHS is quite like heaven
Provided one confronts the tumour
With a sufficient sense of humour.
I know that cancer often kills,
But so do cars and sleeping pills;
And it can hurt one till one sweats,
So can bad teeth and unpaid debts.
A spot of laughter, I am sure,
Often accelerates one’s cure;
So let us patients do our bit
To help the surgeons make us fit


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Re: Excerpts of excellence

Post by DRSB » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:49 am

Pappa »
Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:40 am

Charlou wrote:Kafka



I ♥ Kafka
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/magaz ... ranz_kafka

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Re: Excerpts of excellence

Post by charlou » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:08 am

Interesting read .. thanks for that.
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Re: Excerpts of excellence

Post by charlou » Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:13 am

Reading Sebastian Faulk's Birdsong ...

from Part Four, France 1917 ...


.Stephen laid the letter down on the rough surface of the table, in the grooves of which the rat's blood had dried. Then he rested his head in his hands. He had received an answer to the simple question that had intrigued him. Isabelle no longer loved him; or if she did, she loved him in some distant way that did not affect her actions or her feelings for another man.
.When he looking into his reserves of strength he found that he could bear this thought. He told himself that the feeling they had for each other still existed, but that it existed at a different time.
.Once when he had stood in the chilling cathedral in Amiens he had foreseen the numbers of the dead. It was not a premonition, more a recognition, he told himself, that the difference between death and life was not one of fact but merely of time. This belief had helped him to bear the sound of the dying on the slopes Thiepval. And so he was now able to believe that his love for Isabelle, and hers for him, was safe in its extreme ardour - not lost, but temporarily alive in a manner as significant as any present or future state of feeling could be in the long darkness of death.
.He put Jeanne's letter in his pocket and went out into the trench where Ellis came sliding along the duckboards to meet him.

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