Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Ian » Thu May 03, 2012 3:49 pm

It does not, and the report report on that post is being closed.

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by kiki5711 » Thu May 03, 2012 4:06 pm

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Coito ergo sum wrote:
Ronja wrote:Damn this could have been an interesting thread to take part in. But I won't. Too much Coito: before I started to type this, 74 of 210 posts in this thread were by CES. More than every 3rd post... that starts to feel creepy and obsessive to me, and that is a major turn-off.
Why don't you fuck off? You want a turn-off? Look in the mirror.

I started this thread, so screw you.
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I'm really sorry. My apologies to hades and kiki, especially, but I don't want to even try with threads like this. You two are better and more courageous human beings than I am.
That's not saying much, as you're not much of a human being at all.
Relax, Coito. Take it as a compliment that Ronja isn't "courageous enough", as she put it, to post in your thread. It just means you post challenging threads.

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu May 03, 2012 4:12 pm

Ian wrote:It does not, and the report report on that post is being closed.
This isn't the first time that Ronja has launched unprovoked attacks at me.

It certainly does, the mischaracterization of her post as a simple and innocent "suggestion" aside.

Please address the matter rather than just fucking "closing the report" without even the courtesy of a PM to explain the decision.

A comment such as Ronja's, from a moderator (if I am correct that she is one -- I believe at a minimum she was one) is fucking ridiculous. It wasn't just a "suggestion" that it was "turn off". It was namecalling and uncalled for.

With due respect, your decision here, Ian, is a crock.

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Animavore » Thu May 03, 2012 4:18 pm

I don't see any name-calling. What name do you feel you've been called?
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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Ian » Thu May 03, 2012 4:21 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Ian wrote:It does not, and the report report on that post is being closed.
This isn't the first time that Ronja has launched unprovoked attacks at me.

It certainly does, the mischaracterization of her post as a simple and innocent "suggestion" aside.

Please address the matter rather than just fucking "closing the report" without even the courtesy of a PM to explain the decision.

A comment such as Ronja's, from a moderator (if I am correct that she is one -- I believe at a minimum she was one) is fucking ridiculous. It wasn't just a "suggestion" that it was "turn off". It was namecalling and uncalled for.

With due respect, your decision here, Ian, is a crock.
This was not a unilateral decision on my part. This was the result of some staff discussion. And the reason you didn't get a PM from me is because this simply isn't a very important matter, and I didn't bother. To be blunt, and I'm only bringing up this point because I think you're likely to gripe about it again, the staff wasn't at all divided about this. Ronja's post did not constitute a personal attack on you.

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Faithfree » Thu May 03, 2012 5:17 pm

CES: I saw no evidence of name-calling. Ronja only passed a comment on your tendency to totally dominate certain threads, which she finds annoying. Your response, however, was a personal attack IMHO.
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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu May 03, 2012 6:43 pm

Animavore wrote:I don't see any name-calling. What name do you feel you've been called?
A turn off
Obsessive
Creepy

the rules are pretty clear that phrasing them in an oblique manner doesn't change the thing.

My post was oblique too. Like when I said "If you want to see a turn off, look in the mirror," and "fuck off."

My response was no worse than her post.

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu May 03, 2012 6:45 pm

Ian wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Ian wrote:It does not, and the report report on that post is being closed.
This isn't the first time that Ronja has launched unprovoked attacks at me.

It certainly does, the mischaracterization of her post as a simple and innocent "suggestion" aside.

Please address the matter rather than just fucking "closing the report" without even the courtesy of a PM to explain the decision.

A comment such as Ronja's, from a moderator (if I am correct that she is one -- I believe at a minimum she was one) is fucking ridiculous. It wasn't just a "suggestion" that it was "turn off". It was namecalling and uncalled for.

With due respect, your decision here, Ian, is a crock.
This was not a unilateral decision on my part. This was the result of some staff discussion. And the reason you didn't get a PM from me is because this simply isn't a very important matter, and I didn't bother. To be blunt, and I'm only bringing up this point because I think you're likely to gripe about it again, the staff wasn't at all divided about this. Ronja's post did not constitute a personal attack on you.
Good, I take it as read that saying similar things to other people is now fair game? Or, will there be some hair splitting about how when certain people say such things, it's fine?.

Thank you.

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Pappa » Thu May 03, 2012 6:52 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Good, I take it as read that saying similar things to other people is now fair game? Or, will there be some hair splitting about how when certain people say such things, it's fine?.

Thank you.
Coito, I think you should take a look at Ronja's post with a less emotive eye. Yeah, so there's some criticism of you in it, but really, I think you're overreacting quite a lot:
Ronja wrote:Damn this could have been an interesting thread to take part in. But I won't. Too much Coito: before I started to type this, 74 of 210 posts in this thread were by CES. More than every 3rd post... that starts to feel creepy and obsessive to me, and that is a major turn-off.

IMO, when a general thread (as opposed to a "news about my life" type of thread, which has every right to be centered on one or only a few members' posts) has more than 20 % posts by just one member, it's no more a discussion. To me, discussion implies listening, attempting to take in the other person's viewpoint = empathizing and not dominating the scene.

I'm really sorry. My apologies to hades and kiki, especially, but I don't want to even try with threads like this. You two are better and more courageous human beings than I am.
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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Jesus_of_Nazareth » Thu May 03, 2012 6:56 pm

Animavore wrote:I don't see any name-calling.

I think Seth is a Cunt. But I am too polite to say that.

I like CES, even though he does tend to bang on a bit :hehe:

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by charlou » Thu May 03, 2012 11:16 pm

I read coito's response to Ronja as an understandable reaction to her overstepping the line from fair criticism to a personalised go at coito's character. That was uncalled for provocation.

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Ian » Thu May 03, 2012 11:25 pm

Here's a typical moment from my home life:
My 4 year old daughter comes running to me from the other room, crying.
"Jack punched me!"
I hold her hand and walk over to where 4-yr old Jack is and find him looking at a book.
"Jack, did you just hit Skyler?"
"Well... she was trying to take this book... and I wanted to read it first!"
"Jack... did you punch her?"
"Yeah... but I wanted to read the book and she tried to take it!"
"Jack, go to your room! You are never allowed to punch your sisters. You know that!"
Jack stomps off crying. "No fair! She started it! She tried to take my book!"

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by charlou » Fri May 04, 2012 12:25 am

hayeah .. I can recount many such days in the life of the charlou household :mrgreen:


One of the things I like about no moderation is it removes that responsibility for dealing with such issues from a nannying/refereeing authority figure and places it back with the participants ... who are adults here, not children. It really is a breath of fresh air to see people working it out themselves rather than pressing report buttons and playing the 'but he said/she said' and 'that's not fair' game.
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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Warren Dew » Fri May 04, 2012 1:48 am

Ian wrote:Here's a typical moment from my home life:
My 4 year old daughter comes running to me from the other room, crying.
"Jack punched me!"
I hold her hand and walk over to where 4-yr old Jack is and find him looking at a book.
"Jack, did you just hit Skyler?"
"Well... she was trying to take this book... and I wanted to read it first!"
"Jack... did you punch her?"
"Yeah... but I wanted to read the book and she tried to take it!"
"Jack, go to your room! You are never allowed to punch your sisters. You know that!"
Jack stomps off crying. "No fair! She started it! She tried to take my book!"

:sigh:
Simple solution: get a libertarian to teach your kids about property rights. We did that, and they now know to ask politely rather than try to snatch their sibling's property away like a communist who doesn't believe in private ownership.

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

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