An Open Letter to White Privilege

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Re: An Open Letter to White Privilege

Post by Hermit » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:18 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Segregate the bitches!!
Yes, but not totally. Provided they can be made to stop nattering about how they really need yet another pair of shoes, or whatever item of fashion momentarily strikes their fancy, they are not entirely useless. I mean, we men do like them for being animated cumbags, don't we?

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Re: An Open Letter to White Privilege

Post by Tyrannical » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:07 am

Hermit wrote:Smart people are the exception full stop. Race doesn't enter into it, but while you are entertaining your notions of racial superiority, let me ask you this: What about women? Are they genetically inferior too? I mean, just look how few of them are Nobel laureates. Between 1901 and 2013 854 people got the award. Only 45 of them were women. Stupid women I say.
Women have a lower average intelligence then men, they also have a different statistical distribution. There is a smaller percentage of women than men at the extremes for both low and high intelligence. There are also on average differences in thought processes such as creativity and logic that also impact this beyond just raw intelligence.
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Re: An Open Letter to White Privilege

Post by Hermit » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:11 am

Tyrannical wrote:
Hermit wrote:Smart people are the exception full stop. Race doesn't enter into it, but while you are entertaining your notions of racial superiority, let me ask you this: What about women? Are they genetically inferior too? I mean, just look how few of them are Nobel laureates. Between 1901 and 2013 854 people got the award. Only 45 of them were women. Stupid women I say.
Women have a lower average intelligence then men
I was quite convinced that you do not only entertain racist notions, but sexist ones as well, but I wanted you to confirm that with your own words. Thanks for taking the bait.
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Post by Tyrannical » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:43 am

What's wrong with entertaining beliefs that may be factually correct? It's kind of hard to objects to facts based on moral grounds.
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Re: An Open Letter to White Privilege

Post by Hermit » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:57 am

Tyrannical wrote:What's wrong with entertaining beliefs that may be factually correct?
Nothing at all. Your beliefs just remind me of the factually correct theories like flat earth, psychoanalysis and phrenology among others.
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Re: An Open Letter to White Privilege

Post by Gallstones » Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:14 pm

Mr.Samsa wrote:
This concept sounds interesting - was there a significant problem of white minstrel shows back in the day where black people painted their faces white and pretended to be mentally deficient and perpetuated a number of stereotypes about white people?
Does there have to have been?
Is being called an oreo racist?
Is being expected to be a liberal or a Democrat because you are black racist?
Is the vandalism intended to be intimidating?
Is it racially motivated?

Would this be the same thing?
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:16 am

Tyrannical wrote:What's wrong with entertaining beliefs that may be factually correct? It's kind of hard to objects to facts based on moral grounds.
It's not that women (and other groupings) may factually get lower IQ scores (do they?). It's what we can meaningfully determine from IQ tests and what that actually says about intelligence defined in numerous ways. And also whether that is caused by genetic differences.
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Re: An Open Letter to White Privilege

Post by DaveDodo007 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:51 am

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Tyrannical wrote:What's wrong with entertaining beliefs that may be factually correct? It's kind of hard to objects to facts based on moral grounds.
It's not that women (and other groupings) may factually get lower IQ scores (do they?). It's what we can meaningfully determine from IQ tests and what that actually says about intelligence defined in numerous ways. And also whether that is caused by genetic differences.
Oh give it a rest rEv as you are just worried that if scientist are given free reign to study if some 'races' are inferior then Australians will be found wanting. The clues are already there: liking cricket, fosters beer, Olivier Newton John and Rolf Harris. As for your TV shows* Neighbours, home and away, Cell block H, Skippy, well the least said the better. You do seem to have a conveyor belt producing beautiful sheilas by the score but as none of them will shag me then that is still a black mark against you aussies.




* Bluey was ace though as what could be better than a 400ibs cop outrunning a skinny ne'er do well and still have the energy to overpower him. Though stopped clocks and all that.
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Re: An Open Letter to White Privilege

Post by NuclMan » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:55 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:What's wrong with entertaining beliefs that may be factually correct? It's kind of hard to objects to facts based on moral grounds.
It's not that women (and other groupings) may factually get lower IQ scores (do they?). It's what we can meaningfully determine from IQ tests and what that actually says about intelligence defined in numerous ways. And also whether that is caused by genetic differences.
I wonder what the percentage of the academics creating and administering said testing were/are females?

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Re: An Open Letter to White Privilege

Post by Tyrannical » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:23 am

Why don't you research iq tests rather than rely on your misconceptions.
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Re: An Open Letter to White Privilege

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:18 am

Bell curve fallacy in 3... 2... 1...
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Re: An Open Letter to White Privilege

Post by NuclMan » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:16 am

Tyrannical wrote:Why don't you research iq tests rather than rely on your misconceptions.
I did. Turns out I was right :biggrin:

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Re: An Open Letter to White Privilege

Post by Drewish » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:22 am

No, you're not.
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Re: An Open Letter to White Privilege

Post by NuclMan » Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:41 am

Drewish wrote:No, you're not.
Am so.

I did a cursory glance at the Wiki page on IQ and lo and behold, not a female mentioned in any significant aspect. There's also plenty of critique and controversy regarding the objectivity of the testing.

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