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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:19 pm

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rEvolutionist wrote:What "standards" have I displayed? :ask:

I was the one that had to point out to you that all history that is derivative has to be taken with a large dose of skepticism. That includes both Stone's work, and your impressive catalogue of work somewhere, allegedly.
Sorry, rEv, I'd give you a link, but I don't want to get my site dirty.
Not going to back up your "standards" bollocks? Noted.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:19 pm

He's gotta be in Poe mode by now. Seriously, nobody actually thinks like that.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:20 pm

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rEvolutionist wrote:Care to show me where I "lost an argument"? Lol. Your only coherent (if it can be called that) claim here is that because Stone once made a shit hollywood blockbuster (in your view), any history documentary he does should be automatically discounted as bollocks. Do you really need me to point out the retardedness of that "argument"? Seriously?

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As far as I'm concerned, if you want to practise surgery, you need to study surgery, and pass your exams, and then be supervised till you are competent to do it.
History isn't surgery, but it's important. Historians follow a similar educational path to surgeons.
By all means, if you want, put your trust in a surgeon who just wants to have a go.

Do you really need me to point out the retardedness of that "approach"? Seriously?
I think you must be a troll. Stupidity couldn't even explain the dumb in that post of yours. Can you understand this simple point: Hollywood Blockbuster =/= History documentary. Can you now see why your bum custard about surgery is, well, bum custard?
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:22 pm

G, you've made spurious claims throughout this thread, and I've shown in all cases how they are spurious. All you've managed to defend yourself is to descend to childish rhetoric. If you don't want to defend the nonsense you say, that's fine. Just realise that everyone else can see where you've fucked up.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:23 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:G, you've made spurious claims throughout this thread, and I've shown in all cases how they are spurious. All you've managed to defend yourself is to descend to childish rhetoric. If you don't want to defend the nonsense you say, that's fine. Just realise that everyone else can see where you've fucked up.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:24 pm

I don't need your responses, G. You need to do them for your own sake. Everyone can see the silly statements that you've made. It's your choice whether you want to defend them or not.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:25 pm

You didn't even catch my vac reference in the garage thread. Perhaps you need a cup of coffee?
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by mistermack » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:26 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:I think you must be a troll. Stupidity couldn't even explain the dumb in that post of yours. Can you understand this simple point: Hollywood Blockbuster =/= History documentary. Can you now see why your bum custard about surgery is, well, bum custard?
Now you're back where you belong.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Rum » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:28 pm

Sad to see what could be an interesting discussion turn to shit.

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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:28 pm

More evasion, I see, MM. There was a clear point in there that explained why your argument fails. I know you can see, like everyone else can see it. Oh well.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:30 pm

Rum wrote:Sad to see what could be an interesting discussion turn to shit.
I'm having flash backs to Gawdzilla's MASSIVE trollfest at ratskep. The same as here. Serious discussion was derailed by some boob who had a stick up his arse about one issue, and who could only respond with childish empty rhetoric.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by PsychoSerenity » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:33 pm

Zilla, I know you're having fun, but this thread has jumped 10 pages since yesterday, mostly filled with bickering and a complete lack of history. If this series is shit can you recommend something better? I know obviously the best way to learn is spending years studying, but I'm just not going to spend my time on that - it doesn't interest me enough. But I am just about prepared to spend a little time watching a few documentary series' and absorb some information while I eat my dinner - if you can suggest something that is accurate and reliable.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by FBM » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:39 pm

Rum wrote:Sad to see what could be an interesting discussion turn to shit.
Very :this:

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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:40 pm

PsychoSerenity wrote:Zilla, I know you're having fun, but this thread has jumped 10 pages since yesterday, mostly filled with bickering and a complete lack of history. If this series is shit can you recommend something better? I know obviously the best way to learn is spending years studying, but I'm just not going to spend my time on that - it doesn't interest me enough. But I am just about prepared to spend a little time watching a few documentary series' and absorb some information while I eat my dinner - if you can suggest something that is accurate and reliable.
You can start with the BBC, they consistent do a betterish job than TV aimed the Merkin audience.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:40 pm

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Rum wrote:Sad to see what could be an interesting discussion turn to shit.
Very :this:

:bored: :sigh:
Getting scolded for expressing my opinion on Stone isn't a way to keep me from further responses. Just sayin'.
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