GMO

[pErvinalia]

Not really, given organic is considerably more expensive and often less presentable than non-organic.

[rainbow]

Agreed. The "organic" industry will go down as the worst marketing scam since flavoured condoms.

Not my impression. It is expanding to suppress the non-organic one. 70% of the mutton sold in GB is halal. Why? Easier to sell because non-halals will buy it just as the halals who would not buy non-halal mutton. Very sound business logic, actually!

http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/minority.pdf

Can anyone explain why it is 'organic' if grown in animal turds, but not human turds as fertiliser?

[pErvinalia]

It's usually animals that don't eat meat, and therefore restricts the transfer of parasites and other nasties. Well that's the theory anyway.

[laklak]

The Chinese have been using human shit as fertilizer for centuries, and look how many of them are running about.

[Forty Two]

to be clearer, the problem isn't that organic isn't a laudable pursuit. It's that it is done in a terrible way in the US (and probably increasingly in other places).

Organic is not a laudable pursuit. It's a gimmick. And, it takes far more land to farm organically, which in and of itself is terrible for the environment.

[Forty Two]

Agreed. The "organic" industry will go down as the worst marketing scam since flavoured condoms.

Not my impression. It is expanding to suppress the non-organic one. 70% of the mutton sold in GB is halal. Why? Easier to sell because non-halals will buy it just as the halals who would not buy non-halal mutton. Very sound business logic, actually!

http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/minority.pdf

I won't buy anything halal, or organic. I have mistakenly purchased organic sometimes, and I'm pissed off when it happens. it's like homeopathy. Pure bunk.

Oh, look! Organic bananas! Better get those! Wouldn't want to eat those other bananas! Cuz, well, like, they're not organic. They were grown with fertilizer, not shit, so, well, you know. The shit grown fruit is way better. It's common sense.

[DRSB]

Agreed. The "organic" industry will go down as the worst marketing scam since flavoured condoms.

Not my impression. It is expanding to suppress the non-organic one. 70% of the mutton sold in GB is halal. Why? Easier to sell because non-halals will buy it just as the halals who would not buy non-halal mutton. Very sound business logic, actually!

http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/minority.pdf

I won't buy anything halal, or organic. I have mistakenly purchased organic sometimes, and I'm pissed off when it happens. it's like homeopathy. Pure bunk.

Oh, look! Organic bananas! Better get those! Wouldn't want to eat those other bananas! Cuz, well, like, they're not organic. They were grown with fertilizer, not shit, so, well, you know. The shit grown fruit is way better. It's common sense.

Soon we'll have to go out of the city to look for non-organic because all the central chops sell organic only, really annoying! And so expensive!

[Tyrannical]

I never buy organic produce. Organic means grown in diseased shit.

[Sean Hayden]

Ew, just think of all the nitrogen and other harmful chemicals you're ingesting!

[Sean Hayden]

Interesting point about limited selection. It will be interesting to see if the Mexicans at our biggest farmers market--feg off, they've been around forever --take it up.

I doubt it.

[DRSB]

Well, oxygen is toxic too, thank god we evolved with adaptations to deal with it and there is still the oxidation because it forms oxides with almost anything, and it is a waste product of photosynthesis.

[Sean Hayden]

I've definitely developed a fair bit of rust over the years.

'n yar, the popularity of organics can probably be attributed to ignorance of plants. But increasingly, where it impacts my small corner, it's about opposing fert manufacturers.

[Tero]

The personal care business is booming
http://www.vitacost.com/bathandpersonalcare

this is because
1. they do add irritating ingredients..I can't use most detergents
2. we had the proctrer and gambles of the world testing products on rodents
they needed to as the ingredients were in fact man made and could be called drugs and were similar to over the counter drug products

[JimC]

Well, all the veggies we grow are organic in the main. We use mainly cow manure and home-made compost, and the only spray that goes on is a home-made one, based of soap and olive oil.

Bloody tasty veggies, too...

[Tero]

But, Jim, you are still using DNA!