Political Assassinations

[sandinista]

coito:

Also, the topic is about whether political assassinations are more common in the US or elsewhere, or whether it's about the same. Read the OP.

haha, close enough. the topic is POLITICAL ASSASSINATIONS. If the topic were dishwashers then you'd have a point.

your "cut and paste" tirade....I forgot to add the link, fucking sue me.

'zilla was rhetorically giving you the finger.

How so, and even if he was "trying to" (how the fuck is pointing out that the list is too short giving me the finger) what he said still proves my point...if not proves, at least he agrees with what I'm saying. (I'm rhetorically giving you the finger)

Not offended - laughing at the nonsense you swallow without question. Is it anti-American? Then sandinista thinks it's true.

Yes, you are offended. Baby. I laugh at your nonsense far to often, all your gung ho american BS, I've read it over and over again here. Is it pro american (ie on cnn or fox),...then coito thinks it true.

LOL "democracy now" - with all due respect for that extraordinarily biased source....yet another group that prints anything anti-American.

That really shows your lack of any intelligence.

[maiforpeace]

Democracy Now is a liberal news source that's true. Biased? Of course it's biased to you CES, just like I think conservative new sources are biased.

So left-wing criticism of the US is anti-American now?

[sandinista]

Democracy Now is a liberal news source that's true. Biased? Of course it's biased to you CES, just like I think conservative new sources are biased.

So left-wing criticism of the US is anti-American now?

any criticism of the US is "anti american" to coito. It's actually just a standard line for any right wing liberal democratic ideologue. Criticize US policy = "You're anti american!! Cuba and Venezuela suck!!" Kind of a learned knee jerk reaction, very similar to Pavlov's dog experiment, instead of droll you get "You're anti american!! Cuba and Venezuela suck!!" Nothing new, interesting, or valid.

[Coito ergo sum]

coito:

Also, the topic is about whether political assassinations are more common in the US or elsewhere, or whether it's about the same. Read the OP.

haha, close enough. the topic is POLITICAL ASSASSINATIONS. If the topic were dishwashers then you'd have a point.

your "cut and paste" tirade....I forgot to add the link, fucking sue me.

Still haven't seen the link....

'zilla was rhetorically giving you the finger.

How so, and even if he was "trying to" (how the fuck is pointing out that the list is too short giving me the finger) what he said still proves my point...if not proves, at least he agrees with what I'm saying. (I'm rhetorically giving you the finger)

I'll let Gawdzilla explain. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Gawdzilla thinks your entire list was right on, and the only error was that it was too short and left out some other murder sprees our evil leaders have gone on.... I won't put words in his mouth.

Not offended - laughing at the nonsense you swallow without question. Is it anti-American? Then sandinista thinks it's true.

Yes, you are offended. Baby. I laugh at your nonsense far to often, all your gung ho american BS,

which is none - I've never been gung ho American - you seem to think: not accusing every American President of genocide and mass murder is "gung ho"

I've read it over and over again here. Is it pro american (ie on cnn or fox),...then coito thinks it true.

That's total bullshit.

LOL "democracy now" - with all due respect for that extraordinarily biased source....yet another group that prints anything anti-American.

That really shows your lack of any intelligence.

I notice you just skipped the part about how the DRC assassination was Belgian. That doesn't matter - it's still the US's doing, as far as you're concerned....

Democracy Now is a left wing outfit, and unapologetically so. They have a tremendous bias towards all positions left-wing. Not "liberal" bias, mind you - left wing editorial bias. They hardly report the news - the report a political agenda.

[Coito ergo sum]

Democracy Now is a liberal news source that's true. Biased? Of course it's biased to you CES, just like I think conservative new sources are biased.

So left-wing criticism of the US is anti-American now?

It can be. In the case of what I've heard and read from Democracy Now, it often is.

Democracy Now is not so much "liberal" as "leftist" in its bias. Yes, it is biased because they skew the news and editorialize on the news in a biased fashion.

Yes - "conservative news sources" are biased. The mere fact that one calls it a "conservative" news source illustrates that it's biased. If it wasn't biased it woundn't be a conservative news source.

If we really need to go into specific examples of Democracy Now's bias, I can. I hesitate to do so, though, because of the "tl/dr" response that it would probably generate. I am shocked that anyone would even take the position that Democracy Now isn't biased. I had thought of it as more of an editorializing media outlet advancing a known political position. I didn't think it was even billing itself as a straight news outlet.

[sandinista]

I notice you just skipped the part about how the DRC assassination was Belgian. That doesn't matter - it's still the US's doing, as far as you're concerned....

Democracy Now is a left wing outfit, and unapologetically so. They have a tremendous bias towards all positions left-wing. Not "liberal" bias, mind you - left wing editorial bias. They hardly report the news - the report a political agenda.

I can tell from your response you never watched the report on DN. "hardly report the news-the report a political agenda" Unlike what? cnn, fox, abc, cbs? No agenda there.

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Interesting as well is the backing the US gave to the dictator Mobutu after Lumumba was assassinated.

Patrice Émery Lumumba (2 July 1925 – 17 January 1961) was a Congolese independence leader and the first legally elected Prime Minister of the Republic of the Congo after he helped win its independence from Belgium in June 1960. Only ten weeks later, Lumumba's government was deposed in a coup during the Congo Crisis.[1] He was subsequently imprisoned and murdered in circumstances suggesting the support and complicity of the governments of Belgium and the United States.

[maiforpeace]

I notice you just skipped the part about how the DRC assassination was Belgian. That doesn't matter - it's still the US's doing, as far as you're concerned....

Democracy Now is a left wing outfit, and unapologetically so. They have a tremendous bias towards all positions left-wing. Not "liberal" bias, mind you - left wing editorial bias. They hardly report the news - the report a political agenda.

I can tell from your response you never watched the report on DN. "hardly report the news-the report a political agenda" Unlike what? cnn, fox, abc, cbs? No agenda there.

The reason why Democracy Now has a political agenda is because it's "funded entirely through contributions from listeners, viewers, and foundations and does not accept advertisers, corporate underwriting, or government funding".

[sandinista]

I notice you just skipped the part about how the DRC assassination was Belgian. That doesn't matter - it's still the US's doing, as far as you're concerned....

Democracy Now is a left wing outfit, and unapologetically so. They have a tremendous bias towards all positions left-wing. Not "liberal" bias, mind you - left wing editorial bias. They hardly report the news - the report a political agenda.

I can tell from your response you never watched the report on DN. "hardly report the news-the report a political agenda" Unlike what? cnn, fox, abc, cbs? No agenda there.

The reason why Democracy Now has a political agenda is because it's "funded entirely through contributions from listeners, viewers, and foundations and does not accept advertisers, corporate underwriting, or government funding".

Which is also the reason why DM is so important in these times of corporate controlled "news" reporting.

[Coito ergo sum]

Democracy Now is a liberal news source that's true. Biased? Of course it's biased to you CES, just like I think conservative new sources are biased.

So left-wing criticism of the US is anti-American now?

any criticism of the US is "anti american" to coito. It's actually just a standard line for any right wing liberal democratic ideologue. Criticize US policy = "You're anti american!! Cuba and Venezuela suck!!" Kind of a learned knee jerk reaction, very similar to Pavlov's dog experiment, instead of droll you get "You're anti american!! Cuba and Venezuela suck!!" Nothing new, interesting, or valid.

Then I'm anti-American, because I sometimes criticize the US.

Of course, what I'm not talking about when it comes to you, sandinista, is just "any" criticism - what you do is ALWAYS criticize, believe every scurrilous allegation no matter how extreme and pass it on as if it's true, and you will never once take any position that is in any way pro-American. Don't mischararcterize this as me being against "all criticism." It isn't. I criticize the US all the time - I criticized it when Bush was President, and I criticize it now.

[Coito ergo sum]

I notice you just skipped the part about how the DRC assassination was Belgian. That doesn't matter - it's still the US's doing, as far as you're concerned....

Democracy Now is a left wing outfit, and unapologetically so. They have a tremendous bias towards all positions left-wing. Not "liberal" bias, mind you - left wing editorial bias. They hardly report the news - the report a political agenda.

I can tell from your response you never watched the report on DN. "hardly report the news-the report a political agenda" Unlike what? cnn, fox, abc, cbs? No agenda there.

The best you can do is say they are no more biased than Fox News?

[sandinista]

Democracy Now is a liberal news source that's true. Biased? Of course it's biased to you CES, just like I think conservative new sources are biased.

So left-wing criticism of the US is anti-American now?

any criticism of the US is "anti american" to coito. It's actually just a standard line for any right wing liberal democratic ideologue. Criticize US policy = "You're anti american!! Cuba and Venezuela suck!!" Kind of a learned knee jerk reaction, very similar to Pavlov's dog experiment, instead of droll you get "You're anti american!! Cuba and Venezuela suck!!" Nothing new, interesting, or valid.

Then I'm anti-American, because I sometimes criticize the US.

Now you're off topic.

No actually you don't. You may think some small incremental changes in certain individual policies would be nice; would make for a more "capitalism/imperialism with a happy face". You do not, however... ever critique any fundamental ideological US stances. You think every policy is in some sense justified or justifiable. The point is, anyone who seriously criticizes the essence of US/neo liberal ideology you consider "anti american" full stop.

Of course, what I'm not talking about when it comes to you, sandinista, is just "any" criticism - what you do is ALWAYS criticize, believe every scurrilous allegation no matter how extreme and pass it on as if it's true, and you will never once take any position that is in any way pro-American. Don't mischararcterize this as me being against "all criticism." It isn't. I criticize the US all the time - I criticized it when Bush was President, and I criticize it now.

Why would I post pro-american threads? Why can I not post whatever I want to? Why this need for you to want me to somehow balance my threads? If you don't like a post, don't respond, don't read it...who cares? There is enough pro american material to go around, watch the mainstream media. Here you should like this...your personal favorite topic, Iran...Do you go around and try to convince people to post pro Iranian material? You can't say NOTHING good ever happens in Iran. For every negative Iranian post there should be a positive one?

I notice you just skipped the part about how the DRC assassination was Belgian. That doesn't matter - it's still the US's doing, as far as you're concerned....

Democracy Now is a left wing outfit, and unapologetically so. They have a tremendous bias towards all positions left-wing. Not "liberal" bias, mind you - left wing editorial bias. They hardly report the news - the report a political agenda.

I can tell from your response you never watched the report on DN. "hardly report the news-the report a political agenda" Unlike what? cnn, fox, abc, cbs? No agenda there.

The best you can do is say they are no more biased than Fox News?

No, I also mentioned CNN, CBS, ABC, selective reading much?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

'zilla was rhetorically giving you the finger.

How so, and even if he was "trying to" (how the fuck is pointing out that the list is too short giving me the finger) what he said still proves my point...if not proves, at least he agrees with what I'm saying. (I'm rhetorically giving you the finger)

Just pointing out that you do go on and on and on and on and on and on about things you don't shit about.

[sandinista]

'zilla was rhetorically giving you the finger.

How so, and even if he was "trying to" (how the fuck is pointing out that the list is too short giving me the finger) what he said still proves my point...if not proves, at least he agrees with what I'm saying. (I'm rhetorically giving you the finger)

Just pointing out that you do go on and on and on and on and on and on about things you don't shit about.

oh and because YOU say "I don't shit about" means something does it? coming from you that's a compliment. You don't know shit about the topics you post. There. In fact, what you did do, contrary to "pointing out that you think you're a smart army dude" is to go on to prove what I was trying to say many posts ago. "oooohhh I was in the army so I know more than anyone else...please believe me...I was in the army " If I'm looking for an unbiased opinion on political history the last place I'll go is a US army vet.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I was Navy, dipshit.

[sandinista]

whatever fuckwad.