The Coronavirus Thread

[Scot Dutchy]

Brian,

That is a reasonable approach in interpretation but still does not take into account how the deaths are recorded.

Quoting data per 1 M works only for larger populations especially when the population is less than a million.

[NineBerry]

Another way to look at it is to say that Italian Covid-19 deaths are c.1:3000 per head of population. By contrast Spain has a ratio of around 1:9000, the UK and the Netherlands about 1:12,500, and Germany 1:20,000.

Those numbers are wrong.

Spain 1:3,000
Netherlands 1:6,500
Uk 1:7,000
Germany 1:30,000

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Brian Peacock]

Another way to look at it is to say that Italian Covid-19 deaths are c.1:3000 per head of population. By contrast Spain has a ratio of around 1:9000, the UK and the Netherlands about 1:12,500, and Germany 1:20,000.

Those numbers are wrong.

Spain 1:3,000
Netherlands 1:6,500
Uk 1:7,000
Germany 1:30,000

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I divided population by deaths with info from the Google Covid-19 stats aggregator. 60m Italians and 19500 deaths = c.1 death in 3000php.

[Galaxian]

Brian
What a load of crap you write. Sorry I am not going to reply anymore. So many are questioning the data but you wont. I am sorry but I have dealt with government data from many countries and it is mostly shit. You accept it well good luck with that.
You always reply according to the old saying; "never mind the quality feel the width". A load of nothing.
Ask yourself one question: "Why?". I do it all the time.
.....
Cant you see what is going on? I doubt it. It is not about the virus but about power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_bJuDZfxHI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JLBXfKDbbI

[NineBerry]

Another way to look at it is to say that Italian Covid-19 deaths are c.1:3000 per head of population. By contrast Spain has a ratio of around 1:9000, the UK and the Netherlands about 1:12,500, and Germany 1:20,000.

Those numbers are wrong.

Spain 1:3,000
Netherlands 1:6,500
Uk 1:7,000
Germany 1:30,000

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I divided population by deaths with info from the Google Covid-19 stats aggregator. 60m Italians and 19500 deaths = c.1 death in 3000php.

The Italian number is correct, but the others are not. Spain 50 Million inhabitants, 16 thousands dead. 1:3000

[Brian Peacock]

You're in great company there Scot.

[Scot Dutchy]

So are you.

[Brian Peacock]

Another way to look at it is to say that Italian Covid-19 deaths are c.1:3000 per head of population. By contrast Spain has a ratio of around 1:9000, the UK and the Netherlands about 1:12,500, and Germany 1:20,000.

Those numbers are wrong.

Spain 1:3,000
Netherlands 1:6,500
Uk 1:7,000
Germany 1:30,000

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I divided population by deaths with info from the Google Covid-19 stats aggregator. 60m Italians and 19500 deaths = c.1 death in 3000php.

The Italian number is correct, but the others are not. Spain 50 Million inhabitants, 16 thousands dead. 1:3000

Fair enough. I'll blame Google, but the point was that relative measures can be made for comparison that give a better picture than absolute numbers. - even if the exercise has highlighted the importance of finding/ securing reliable stats!

[Scot Dutchy]

That you will never find as data is political and never trust Google.

[Galaxian]

That is for the Health Inspectorate to find out. We have had cases of insulin overdoses before. Maybe in these times someone thought to clean up the home. They were all dementia patients.

Thank you for speaking the truth that dare not be spoken!
You can add to that, pillow over the face, 'forgetting' to give a cup of water, leaving the blanket off on a cold night,....
How many drones actually spray viruses instead of disinfectant? How can we ever know: We're just livestock.
This is what happens when governments fragment families & society; "for your own good, you understand... to keep you safe! "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vge1wpJ3kRI


So, why even bother? It's because knowledge & awareness is a hallmark of sentience. Otherwise we're not just powerless, we're also ignorant witless brutes. At least, by being clear eyed & brave we die honorably!

[Scot Dutchy]

Who believes the USA had only three deaths yesterday? Or 236 new cases.

That is how confusing the figures are.

[Galaxian]

Thanks for the insults. A few rules have been broken here but seeing as the main person breaking the rules is the senior mod nothing of course will happen. I am not embittered so where did you get that insult from? Just a life time of experience. That some people are drinking the virus Kool Aid and then say that others who are refusing to do so are mad is beyond the pale.
I see no evidence to back any government's action. Figures that are being produced that do not satisfy any scientific criterium are being accepted as gospel. We have no facts as there is no double blind research being done.
When I ask why it is because why would governments crash economies world wide thus endangering the lives of millions of people for just 90,000 deaths?
But of course Brian's attitude is the same as the one he applies to the environment problem where he also claims a superior knowledge and never asks the question why. Also another problem quietened by this 'crisis'.
We also were given the crocodile tear stories when in this world today there are millions others already in existence.
If you think I am a lone voice then you closing your ears to the crescendo of comments and complaints being made.
Here there many people who are fed up with these Stasi style restrictions being unnecessarily applied in great sweeps over the countries making many lives almost impossible and people who want to start their businesses before there is no business left. So many are asking what is next and where are we going but people like Brian cant seem to be able to understand that this is a massive question and one far greater than the virus itself as it will affect all of us.
Our friends in Ireland are bitterly complaining about the restrictions and the appointment of a (Stasi) street warden who other neighbours are encouraged to inform him about others who are breaking the rules. The Nosey Parker's Charter it has been called. Maybe this is the society Brian secretly wants to live in?

Just stop the personal insults and come up with genuine facts and not ones spewed out by the government machine.

What a MAGNIFICENT post!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aClyYFrVqPE

[NineBerry]

Who believes the USA had only three deaths yesterday? Or 236 new cases.

That is how confusing the figures are.

That's the. "Now" figure. The yesterday figure is 1830 deaths.

[pErvinalia]

Appropriate that Scott's only support is from Galaxian. Two peas in a pod.

[Hermit]

Estimated deaths continue to decrease as do the number hospitalized.

"More dead in the US than anywhere!"

It's hard not to be a prick and to see the lopsided focus as the worst in us.

The USA is not the worst. On a deaths per million of its population basis it is 15th worst at 62. The global average is 14. Spain gets the silver medal with 355. San Marino wins gold with 32 deaths, making it 1032/million. Italy is in fourth place with 322 and the Netherlands in 8th with 154. Australia trails somewhat with 2/million, and New Zealand is among the real losers. It only manages 0.8.

Yes, there's a big error margin in the statistics, but approximate numbers are better than none at all.

Oh, and you can look up regularly updated statistics at https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/