American Politics from 2019 on

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Re: American Politics from 2019 on

Post by Tero » Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:09 pm

Republicans: Biden's bill will bring in 5000 illegal everyday!
Fact: bill allows Biden to shut border after 5000 have crossed.

I don't think the "closed" would be for the legal crossings. Those have to stay open in Tijuana etc.

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Post by rasetsu » Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:28 pm

5,0000 encounters, not 5,000 crossings.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:05 am

So both supplemental bills failed for now. I'm surprised. Other than spending what was there for either side to dislike? Now they want to remove the border security provisions and this is supposed to get more votes. :dunno:
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Post by JimC » Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:47 am

Increasing and intransigent internal discord is the way most empires end...
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Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:28 am

Nobody is coming to save you from us Jim. :crumple:
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Post by JimC » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:51 am

As a client state to the failing empire, our days are numbered too...
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:24 am

Better start learning Mandarin now..
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Post by Tero » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:42 pm

I’d like to see the two live on stage, not debating, but with the cognitive test.

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Re: American Politics from 2019 on

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:23 am

So the National Security --Ukraine & Israel security-- supplemental passed without anything for the border... --shocking!
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Post by rasetsu » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:32 am

Mike Johnson is the Goldilocks of border security. "Ooh, this one's too soft!"

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Post by Tero » Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:40 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:23 am
So the National Security --Ukraine & Israel security-- supplemental passed without anything for the border... --shocking!
But now they can't deal with that. They have to deal with the border first. After the election.

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Post by Tero » Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:58 am

Not only is the constitution confused about "office" and "officer." It is also confused about "shall." It can also mean "won't."
"[The Constitution] says that the Senate 'shall' have the sole power to hold a trial, but that 'shall' is doing a lot of work there and it doesn't mandate it," says Casey Burgat, the director of the Legislative Affairs Program at George Washington University's Graduate School of Political Management. "And in a lot of people's eyes, it doesn't force it."

The Senate rules suggest that once the chamber receives the articles of impeachment from the House, they must schedule a trial to begin the following day, Burgat explained. But a majority could vote to "reinterpret" the rules, opening up a number of avenues to speed through, delay or dismiss the impeachment outright.
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Post by Tero » Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:12 pm

We don't have budget to house illegals now let alone Trump prison camps.

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Post by rasetsu » Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:59 pm

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As Rubio should certainly know, the conclusion that newly arrived immigrants will necessarily back the Democratic Party is dubious.

It is certainly true that there is a sentiment on the left that America’s increased diversity is a political asset. One of the arguments after Barack Obama was elected president was that he was a harbinger of the new American politics, an idea that was reinforced with Census Bureau projections showing that White Americans were poised to shift from a majority to a plurality by 2050.

But since Obama’s reelection in 2012, that theory has taken some hits. Donald Trump won the presidency in 2016, suggesting that this purported coalition wasn’t as affixed as had been suspected. Trump’s loss in 2020 came despite improvements among non-White voting groups. Since 2020, Black and Hispanic Americans have become much less strongly aligned with the Democratic Party, according to data from Gallup.

We can consider the question of how immigrants in particular vote by looking at data from the national General Social Survey. It includes questions on birthplace and party identification that lets us effectively break out the difference in party identity by nativity. Looking at responses from the last three surveys, we see that foreign-born respondents are no more likely to identify as Democrats than native-born Americans — but much less likely to identify as Republicans.
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