An Independent Scotland?

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An Independent Scotland?

Post by devogue » Fri May 06, 2011 4:34 pm

After the SNP's storming victory, and with a referendum on the issue now inevitable, do you think Scotland will opt for independence from the UK?

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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri May 06, 2011 4:41 pm

I wouldn't buy a used car off Salmond. What a total ass. Tin-pot tribalism such as his hacks me right off

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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by devogue » Fri May 06, 2011 4:45 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:I wouldn't buy a used car off Salmond. What a total ass. Tin-pot tribalism such as his hacks me right off
I agree. I don't like that Nicola woman who pops up on Question Time every noo and again either. From the outside it looks to me that that they have triumphed because they aren't the other cunts.

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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by Seth » Fri May 06, 2011 8:57 pm

devogue wrote:After the SNP's storming victory, and with a referendum on the issue now inevitable, do you think Scotland will opt for independence from the UK?
It's always been independent. Just ask Longshanks.
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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by Twoflower » Fri May 06, 2011 9:22 pm

It would that mean it would be easier for me to move there?
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Post by Seth » Fri May 06, 2011 9:23 pm

Twoflower wrote:It would that mean it would be easier for me to move there?
Just make me King and I'll arrange things.
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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by MrJonno » Fri May 06, 2011 9:29 pm

Twoflower wrote:It would that mean it would be easier for me to move there?
SNP are big supporters of the EU, you need residency of any country in Europe and you can live there
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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by Seth » Fri May 06, 2011 10:08 pm

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Twoflower wrote:It would that mean it would be easier for me to move there?
SNP are big supporters of the EU, you need residency of any country in Europe and you can live there
Fook the EU, up the Stuarts!
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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by klr » Fri May 06, 2011 10:13 pm

An independent Scotland ... then they won't have the English to blame whenever they fuck up again. :{D
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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by mistermack » Sat May 07, 2011 12:49 am

If Cameron had any balls, he would tell Salmond where to stick his demands for more powers. That's a matter for the UK government, not him.
And breaking up the UK would be a matter for a UK referendum, not a Scottish one.
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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by Rum » Sat May 07, 2011 5:56 am

The general consensus seems to be that it isn't viable as an independent nation. It is hugely subsidised from London currently (although the SNP wriggle out of that one). The Scots are however supremely pragmatic. They voted the SNP in because there was no credible opposition. but that doesn't automatically mean they will go for independence in a referendum.

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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by Santa_Claus » Sat May 07, 2011 10:29 am

Of course Scotland could be viable as an independent Nation. Couldn't do it tommorow, but once the institutions are in place.......

Whether it would become a great place to live is another thing - my guess is it would stay a shithole backwater, but no fundamental reason why it couldn't prosper.

If I was a Haggis muncher I would go for Independence, simply because my Government's policies would be all about Scotland - and not about keeping voters in Milton Keynes happy.

My bet is that Salmond goes for an all UK Referendum..........he is a canny f#cker, and playing the long game means he wins as folks in England never think more than a month ahead.
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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by Lozzer » Sat May 07, 2011 11:14 am

If Scotland were to secede from the Union, would the entire United Kingdom be dissolved? It's what the tabloids are implying, but I don't really know much about it. I'm trying to imagine a Union Jack with blue in it, and in my mind, it looks pretty shit. But as Scotland is heavily subsided by London, independence would mean the SNP would need to 'level the books', so to speak. The nationalised services to which the SNP has vowed to protect will have to come to an end.
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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by devogue » Sat May 07, 2011 11:19 am

Devogay wrote:If Scotland were to succeed from the Union, would the entire United Kingdom be dissolved? It's what the tabloids are implying, but I don't really know much about it. I'm trying to imagine a Union Jack with blue in it, and in my mind, it looks pretty shit. But as Scotland is heavily subsided by London, independence would mean the SNP would need to 'level the books', so to speak. The nationalised services to which the SNP has vowed to protect will have to come to an end.
Even more interesting would be the quandry faced by Northern Ireland's Unionists. Who would they want to be "united" with if Scotland seceded from the Union? Westminster, the traditional seat of British power, or Scotland with which they have closer familial ties?

Perhaps Scotland's full independence would cause such an identity crisis that the time would be ripe for NI Unionists to concede that the game was up and a United or federal Ireland would be the best cause of action.

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Re: An Independent Scotland?

Post by Lozzer » Sat May 07, 2011 11:22 am

devogue wrote:
Devogay wrote:If Scotland were to succeed from the Union, would the entire United Kingdom be dissolved? It's what the tabloids are implying, but I don't really know much about it. I'm trying to imagine a Union Jack with blue in it, and in my mind, it looks pretty shit. But as Scotland is heavily subsided by London, independence would mean the SNP would need to 'level the books', so to speak. The nationalised services to which the SNP has vowed to protect will have to come to an end.
Even more interesting would be the quandry faced by Northern Ireland's Unionists. Who would they want to be "united" with if Scotland seceded from the Union? Westminster, the traditional seat of British power, or Scotland with which they have closer familial ties?

Perhaps Scotland's full independence would cause such an identity crisis that the time would be ripe for NI Unionists to concede that the game was up and a United or federal Ireland would be the best cause of action.
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