Ban Ronald McDonald?

[Coito ergo sum]

You're like a lot of fanatics.

again coito attacks with the classic what a load of bollocks.

btw not going to bother with the "yes it is not it isn't" quote clipping this time around, can't be fucked. Already proved my points for this topic and you're just making yourself look like an ass, as usual.

In what way am I a fanatic? Should I await another mischaracterization of my views, or a completely invented statement that you will claim I "always" make?

You live in a different universe if you think you've done anything but make yourself look like a fool.

[Coito ergo sum]

Parting explanation...I was simply responding to this, one in a long line of delirious posts, made by coito.

Not libertarian. Just a liberal republic that protects fundamental liberties in large measure, rather than an authoritarian regime that governs and nitpicks every aspect of our lives. You like the latter, I prefer the former. Got it. I must have missed the part about the "harm" eating Big Macs, speaking one's mind, and having abortions does to "others." But, I'm sure you'll provide a clear explanation of that.

You may have "missed the part about the harm caused by eating mcshit burgers". I have clearly pointed out the harm. Provided a clear explanation (which is what you asked for). Again, you are so ideologically committed, like most fanatics, that you, after seeing evidence to the contrary, still "miss the part". Big shocker there.

You pointed out the supposed "harm" of eating meat, not Big Macs qua Big Macs. Your rationale applies to burgers made at home on the grill just as much as it applies to Big Macs. And, your logic applies to all agriculture. The only way to eliminate the "harm" you alleged is for humans to stop eating.

You pointed out your alleged harm after I made the inquiry. When I made the statement you just quoted, you had not claimed that you were alleging some generalized "harm" to the ecosystem. Naturally, being a liar, you pretend to have clearly articulated your answer before I made the inquiry.

I'm not a fanatic - I'm not the one suggesting that humans shouldn't eat because of the harm that they do to the ecosystem. Only a true fanatic like yourself could make that argument. You also bootstrap your "agriculture is harmful to the world" argument and apply it selectively against your chosen enemy, McDonalds. You claim McDonalds is the culprit when you know darn well, or ought to know, that your argument would apply just as well to the family farmer and the organic farmer or livestock producer.

[sandinista]

You're like a lot of fanatics.

again coito attacks with the classic what a load of bollocks.

btw not going to bother with the "yes it is not it isn't" quote clipping this time around, can't be fucked. Already proved my points for this topic and you're just making yourself look like an ass, as usual.

In what way am I a fanatic? Should I await another mischaracterization of my views, or a completely invented statement that you will claim I "always" make?

You live in a different universe if you think you've done anything but make yourself look like a fool.

In what way am I a fanatic? Should I await another mischaracterization of my views, or a completely invented statement that you will claim I "always" make?

You live in a different universe if you think you've done anything but make yourself look like a fool.

[Gallstones]

"I know you are but what am I?

"I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bonces off me and sticks to you."

[sandinista]

"I know you are but what am I?

"I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bonces off me and sticks to you."

That's about the extent of it.

[Coito ergo sum]

Thanks to you, Sandi.

[sandinista]

Thanks to you, Sandi.

as much thanks to you there coito.

[Coito ergo sum]

Yawn. You pointed out the supposed "harm" of eating meat, not Big Macs qua Big Macs. Your rationale applies to burgers made at home on the grill just as much as it applies to Big Macs. And, your logic applies to all agriculture. The only way to eliminate the "harm" you alleged is for humans to stop eating. Since that's the only way to eliminate the harm you want to see eliminated, then yes, you are a fanatic.

[Gallstones]

This idea that a restaurant burger = unhealthy, but a hamburger patty on a plate with salad and a roll on the side is not; how does that work exactly?

[maiforpeace]

This idea that a restaurant burger = unhealthy, but a hamburger patty on a plate with salad and a roll on the side is not; how does that work exactly?

Whether or not it comes from a restaurant isn't what's unhealthy about burgers - it's the source that the restaurant got the beef from that would determine that. Pre-frozen, pre formed patties full of fat and fillers, which is what you are going to find at a restaurant like McDonald's is going to be a lot less healthy than a burger made from lean ground beef.

[Warren Dew]

This idea that a restaurant burger = unhealthy, but a hamburger patty on a plate with salad and a roll on the side is not; how does that work exactly?

It's the bun that's unhealthy.

[Gallstones]

This idea that a restaurant burger = unhealthy, but a hamburger patty on a plate with salad and a roll on the side is not; how does that work exactly?

It's the bun that's unhealthy.

Yeah well, I'm going to upset everyone---by eating the fatty burger and the bun. So there.

[sandinista]

Yawn. You pointed out the supposed "harm" of eating meat, not Big Macs qua Big Macs. Your rationale applies to burgers made at home on the grill just as much as it applies to Big Macs. And, your logic applies to all agriculture. The only way to eliminate the "harm" you alleged is for humans to stop eating. Since that's the only way to eliminate the harm you want to see eliminated, then yes, you are a fanatic.

Actually it doesn't (I don't support either but..) factory meat farming causes way, by far, more harm than local, small farmed animals. Besides that, I said nothing about harm this or harm that. I asked you about "liberty" and you said something along the lines of "free to do whatever as long as it doesn't cause any harm...which you followed up by saying. "whaaa?? eating a mcshit burger causes no harm"...it does. Very simple. Even for you I would think. You, are the fanatic here.

[maiforpeace]

This idea that a restaurant burger = unhealthy, but a hamburger patty on a plate with salad and a roll on the side is not; how does that work exactly?

It's the bun that's unhealthy.

Yeah well, I'm going to upset everyone---by eating the fatty burger and the bun. So there.

It doesn't upset me. It's your body and conscience.

Yawn. You pointed out the supposed "harm" of eating meat, not Big Macs qua Big Macs. Your rationale applies to burgers made at home on the grill just as much as it applies to Big Macs. And, your logic applies to all agriculture. The only way to eliminate the "harm" you alleged is for humans to stop eating. Since that's the only way to eliminate the harm you want to see eliminated, then yes, you are a fanatic.

Actually it doesn't (I don't support either but..) factory meat farming causes way, by far, more harm than local, small farmed animals. Besides that, I said nothing about harm this or harm that. I asked you about "liberty" and you said something along the lines of "free to do whatever as long as it doesn't cause any harm...which you followed up by saying. "whaaa?? eating a mcshit burger causes no harm"...it does. Very simple. Even for you I would think. You, are the fanatic here.

Just about everything causes harm to humans and the environment. But there are degrees of harm, and factory farming is without a doubt one of the most harmful production methods that humans engage in.

[sandinista]

This idea that a restaurant burger = unhealthy, but a hamburger patty on a plate with salad and a roll on the side is not; how does that work exactly?

It's the bun that's unhealthy.

Yeah well, I'm going to upset everyone---by eating the fatty burger and the bun. So there.

It doesn't upset me. It's your body and conscience.

Yawn. You pointed out the supposed "harm" of eating meat, not Big Macs qua Big Macs. Your rationale applies to burgers made at home on the grill just as much as it applies to Big Macs. And, your logic applies to all agriculture. The only way to eliminate the "harm" you alleged is for humans to stop eating. Since that's the only way to eliminate the harm you want to see eliminated, then yes, you are a fanatic.

Actually it doesn't (I don't support either but..) factory meat farming causes way, by far, more harm than local, small farmed animals. Besides that, I said nothing about harm this or harm that. I asked you about "liberty" and you said something along the lines of "free to do whatever as long as it doesn't cause any harm...which you followed up by saying. "whaaa?? eating a mcshit burger causes no harm"...it does. Very simple. Even for you I would think. You, are the fanatic here.

Just about everything causes harm to humans and the environment. But there are degrees of harm, and factory farming is without a doubt one of the most harmful production methods that humans engage in.

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