Union Member Fired for Aircraft Carrier Shirt.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

can we please have more parody threads to lift the tone of the forum

Sorry, the OGBs don't like them.

[Coito ergo sum]

So, who fired him? Obama, or some guy who didn't want to lose his venue income in the future?

His boss.

And do we know what the boss said about this? Like maybe, "Are you just trying to be a jerk?"

Being a jerk by wearing a t-shirt that refers to the George HW Bush Aircraft Carrier, on which his son serves?

That didn't go over well with his union supervisor. Hammond says he was told to take off the sweatshirt, or he would have to go home.
He refused. They told him he was fired from the job.

***UPDATE: Duane Hammond says union officials called him this afternoon to apologize for the incident. He say they are "bending over backwards" to make it up to him.

You presume he's not being a jerk just because his son serves on that ship? Why?

I don't presume anything. I don't, however, assume it without evidence. And, in any case, the union is apologizing, and did not suggest that he was being a jerk. So, there is no reason to conclude he's a jerk when the employer itself doesn't claim it.

Please explain how wearing the shirt could be construed as "being a jerk." He's wearing it with an expression of smug self satisfaction or something?

[Coito ergo sum]

Typical stupid story ,not really a story actually ...Jerks gets himself fired Press write up story with considerable bias invoking nationalism and pride in the good old US armed forces as yet another story to promote anti-Obama feelings .

can we please have more parody threads to lift the tone of the forum

"gets himself fired" -- evidence?

What "bias?"

I hope the story isn't "typical," as it would be sad indeed if these kinds of firings were commonplace.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

He could have worn it just to piss off some of the people there. You don't know. You are defending him without knowing his motivations. I pointed out one possible reason for wearing it. You can prove absolutely that's the reason he wore it? He knew where he was going to work that day, and the nature of the event. So he made a decision as to what to wear that morning (assuming he took his clothes off the night before.)

[Coito ergo sum]

He could have worn it just to piss off some of the people there. You don't know.

Neither do you. Nobody has made that allegation, not even the employer who fired him.

You are defending him without knowing his motivations.

His motivation is irrelevant. Maybe his motivation was to start a riot, or to honor his son, or to piss off Obama supporters, or maybe he just put it on because it was the shirt on the top of the drawer that morning. We don't know, and can't ever know, and neither could his boss (unless the guy verbalized what his motivation was or otherwise disclosed it).

I pointed out one possible reason for wearing it. You can prove absolutely that's the reason he wore it?

I can't prove the Moon isn't made out of green cheese either. Last time I checked, the person making the assertion bears the burden of proof. I.e. - you - since your assertion is that he had some improper motivation.

What I can prove is that the guy's employer apologized for the firing, and they never accused him of having some undisclosed "motivation" that renders his wearing of the shirt a terminable offense....if THEY never found such a motivation, then on what basis do you claim it to exist?

He knew where he was going to work that day,

So what? It obviously wasn't prohibited for him to wear the shirt, since they are apologizing to him now.

and the nature of the event.

So? At Sarah Palin events stage hands are "being jerks" and should have their employment terminated if they wear a t-shirt with the word "Obama"on it?

So he made a decision as to what to wear that morning (assuming he took his clothes off the night before.)

You don't know that, do you? Maybe he was in a car wreck and tore his shirt he was wearing that morning beyond repair. He thought quickly, perhaps, and recalled that in the trunk of his car he had the shirt he just picked up from his trip to see his son on the George HW Bush. In order to make it to work on time, he hurriedly changes his shirt and drives the barely drivable vehicle to he work site, making it there in time to do his job.

Why do you assume otherwise?

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Typical stupid story ,not really a story actually ...Jerks gets himself fired Press write up story with considerable bias invoking nationalism and pride in the good old US armed forces as yet another story to promote anti-Obama feelings .

can we please have more parody threads to lift the tone of the forum

"gets himself fired" -- evidence?

What "bias?"

I hope the story isn't "typical," as it would be sad indeed if these kinds of firings were commonplace.

If the story were that a stage hand or security guard had been asked to remove the 'Clintons Cards ' T-shirt he was honestly wearing at a Pallin rally just because he was so proud of his son being the manager of a Birthday card shop down the road . Quite rightly his line manager would have told him not to be a jerk and to cover the T-shirt !

Take out the anti Obama flag waving remove the seemingly sacrosact nature of The US military and have you have the NON story of a man being told that his T-shirt was a bad choice for the days work and refusing to change it .

[Coito ergo sum]

Typical stupid story ,not really a story actually ...Jerks gets himself fired Press write up story with considerable bias invoking nationalism and pride in the good old US armed forces as yet another story to promote anti-Obama feelings .

can we please have more parody threads to lift the tone of the forum

"gets himself fired" -- evidence?

What "bias?"

I hope the story isn't "typical," as it would be sad indeed if these kinds of firings were commonplace.

If the story were that a stage hand or security guard had been asked to remove the 'Clintons Cards ' T-shirt he was honestly wearing at a Pallin rally just because he was so proud of his son being the manager of a Birthday card shop down the road . Quite rightly his line manager would have told him not to be a jerk and to cover the T-shirt !

Quite rightly? Really?

Take out the anti Obama flag waving remove the seemingly sacrosact nature of The US military and have you have the NON story of a man being told that his T-shirt was a bad choice for the days work and refusing to change it .

LOL - his employer has apologized for its improper termination.

[Robert_S]

His boss's actions can be accounted for by a motivation to cover his ass in both the fireing and the apology.


Who exactly is signing hi check, the article doesn't say, but I'd guess that is was some company that has to worry about keeping a client. Dies this guy have any clue about the benefits of making it easier for his employer to keep making money?