Durro wrote:Hi Guys,
I didn’t find out that anything was up till this morning, when I stumbled over the Admin announcement from Josh.
Over the past several weeks, the Mods were promised consultation and cooperation by Andrew (Chalkers, the tech weenie) and Josh (The “Admin” Dude), and the opportunity to test out a new site and work out the bugs before any transition. We were told that the current forums would be migrated over, but perhaps reorganised with more emphasis on science.
They’ve gone ahead and completely excluded the Mods, presented a fair accompli with a new format, and now we’re locked out of RD.net like everyone else. For 40 mins after the lock, the Mods were still able to post, but now we’re shut out too, probably because we all went berserk and Josh didn’t want to deal with us.
Topsy and Mazille posted the note that the Mods got which in addition to the info you guys got, which also demanded that the Mods shut up, don’t create waves, don’t try to contact Richard Dawkins and tow the party line. These additions were removed by Josh, as well as an entire thread in Tech Support which criticized the impending forum closure in 30 days. Of course, that’s now changed.
I'm fucking pissed off.
:pissed:
Announcement about RDF
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Welcome everyone!
Indeed RDF has proved for good that there is no such thing as intelligent design. I have never been active in there, nor do I know anything of that person Josh, but for sure this has been one of the dumbiest movements I have ever seen in project management. There are one thousand ways to redesign, improve or simply change a project, but after reading the posts minute after minute of what was going on, I think they have simply chosen in every single case the worst way to do every step. Mr. Timonen has done the impossible: Lose the biggest "customer" share in the online atheists market. Enrage and create an strike of experienced staff members, and fuck up a brand product that had a holyness halo around it. I am wordless. Bella will know more for sure, but I can't think how could Timonen survive a RL CV check-up. I would not let him manage a monopolistic candy store in a school of rich children!
Living in a comunist country, I am frightfully surprised of the trend of atheists groups to play a "daddy knows best" system. Rationalia apart of that, of course, where a more accurate spirit of "Daddy knows shit", reigns...
Now I am very interested about these changes. As forums get their personality from its members and its system, I am very interested about seeing the new Ratz personality with all these good members adding their personality and knowledge.
About RDF, I am very very eager to see what is the "new project". RD himself and RDF have always tried to push an elitist approach to atheism, something that I consider it actually backfires the secularization of the anglo society (and just the anglo society; from all the good speakers on pro of an atheistic view, RD has been the less universalistic of them all. Being Spanish and living in Asia, I am sore about the anglocentrism of the RD phenomenon).
But on the other hand it all smells as a profesionalism of the RD online circle. Profesionalist should be read profit seeker. More exlusive content, and I guess a "pay-per-view" system... It is so paralel to the battles of China and Vietnam against Facebook and Google, that it's scary.
I hope that not many of those who have been insulted and mistreated in RDF will come back when it restarts. But I know that many will. The behavioral pattern of RDF resembles too much to a religion. Gawd has a plan that you cannot understand, come back and your sins will be forgotten...
For everyone, it is the time to evolve.
Indeed RDF has proved for good that there is no such thing as intelligent design. I have never been active in there, nor do I know anything of that person Josh, but for sure this has been one of the dumbiest movements I have ever seen in project management. There are one thousand ways to redesign, improve or simply change a project, but after reading the posts minute after minute of what was going on, I think they have simply chosen in every single case the worst way to do every step. Mr. Timonen has done the impossible: Lose the biggest "customer" share in the online atheists market. Enrage and create an strike of experienced staff members, and fuck up a brand product that had a holyness halo around it. I am wordless. Bella will know more for sure, but I can't think how could Timonen survive a RL CV check-up. I would not let him manage a monopolistic candy store in a school of rich children!
Living in a comunist country, I am frightfully surprised of the trend of atheists groups to play a "daddy knows best" system. Rationalia apart of that, of course, where a more accurate spirit of "Daddy knows shit", reigns...
Now I am very interested about these changes. As forums get their personality from its members and its system, I am very interested about seeing the new Ratz personality with all these good members adding their personality and knowledge.
About RDF, I am very very eager to see what is the "new project". RD himself and RDF have always tried to push an elitist approach to atheism, something that I consider it actually backfires the secularization of the anglo society (and just the anglo society; from all the good speakers on pro of an atheistic view, RD has been the less universalistic of them all. Being Spanish and living in Asia, I am sore about the anglocentrism of the RD phenomenon).
But on the other hand it all smells as a profesionalism of the RD online circle. Profesionalist should be read profit seeker. More exlusive content, and I guess a "pay-per-view" system... It is so paralel to the battles of China and Vietnam against Facebook and Google, that it's scary.
I hope that not many of those who have been insulted and mistreated in RDF will come back when it restarts. But I know that many will. The behavioral pattern of RDF resembles too much to a religion. Gawd has a plan that you cannot understand, come back and your sins will be forgotten...
For everyone, it is the time to evolve.
Re: Announcement about RDF
We're all pissed off Durro. Well if the pm's are locked we can't even migrate the Science Writing Contest, or tell people where to find us...
I am really boring and long winded: prejudice declared
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Re: Announcement about RDF
I'd love to hear more on this, and get a fresh perspective from outside my cultural matrix. Care to start a thread on Eurocentricism and Anglocentricism in these matters? It really would be interesting and useful I think... none of want to be bigots or short-sighted.Sisifo wrote:
About RDF, I am very very eager to see what is the "new project". RD himself and RDF have always tried to push an elitist approach to atheism, something that I consider it actually backfires the secularization of the anglo society (and just the anglo society; from all the good speakers on pro of an atheistic view, RD has been the less universalistic of them all. Being Spanish and living in Asia, I am sore about the anglocentrism of the RD phenomenon).
j x
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My blog: http://jerome23.wordpress.com/
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I've posted a vid on youtube, which I have linked to in my response to your blog post, and I've shared it everywhere I can think of that RDFers hang out. Hopefully, the word will get out, and we'll be able to gather a few bods at least.Jerome23 wrote:We're all pissed off Durro. Well if the pm's are locked we can't even migrate the Science Writing Contest, or tell people where to find us...
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I think you can access PMs - just not send new ones.Jerome23 wrote:We're all pissed off Durro. Well if the pm's are locked we can't even migrate the Science Writing Contest, or tell people where to find us...
A book is a version of the world. If you do not like it, ignore it; or offer your own version in return.
Salman Rushdie
You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
House MD
Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
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This is the wrong forum for bluffing
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Yes, yes. But first I need to show you this venomous fish!
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Salman Rushdie
You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
House MD
Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
Sandy Denny
This is the wrong forum for bluffing
Paco
Yes, yes. But first I need to show you this venomous fish!
Calilasseia
I think we should do whatever Pawiz wants.
Twoflower
Bella squats momentarily then waddles on still peeing, like a horse
Millefleur
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hackenslash wrote:I've posted a vid on youtube, which I have linked to in my response to your blog post, and I've shared it everywhere I can think of that RDFers hang out. Hopefully, the word will get out, and we'll be able to gather a few bods at least.Jerome23 wrote:We're all pissed off Durro. Well if the pm's are locked we can't even migrate the Science Writing Contest, or tell people where to find us...
link to Youtube Or at least it's title ???

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Feck wrote:hackenslash wrote:I've posted a vid on youtube, which I have linked to in my response to your blog post, and I've shared it everywhere I can think of that RDFers hang out. Hopefully, the word will get out, and we'll be able to gather a few bods at least.Jerome23 wrote:We're all pissed off Durro. Well if the pm's are locked we can't even migrate the Science Writing Contest, or tell people where to find us...
link to Youtube Or at least it's title ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyLnxu19DM8
I just sent PMs to AndromedasWake, dprjones, AronRa, Thunderf00t and FFreethinker, which should cover just about all the regulars one way or another, asking them to share/rate/mirror/favourite the vid. With any luck, that should help in getting the word out.
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Edit: Nevermind, Hack beat me to it.Feck wrote:hackenslash wrote:I've posted a vid on youtube, which I have linked to in my response to your blog post, and I've shared it everywhere I can think of that RDFers hang out. Hopefully, the word will get out, and we'll be able to gather a few bods at least.Jerome23 wrote:We're all pissed off Durro. Well if the pm's are locked we can't even migrate the Science Writing Contest, or tell people where to find us...
link to Youtube Or at least it's title ???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyLnxu19 ... r_embeddedFeck wrote:hackenslash wrote:I've posted a vid on youtube, which I have linked to in my response to your blog post, and I've shared it everywhere I can think of that RDFers hang out. Hopefully, the word will get out, and we'll be able to gather a few bods at least.Jerome23 wrote:We're all pissed off Durro. Well if the pm's are locked we can't even migrate the Science Writing Contest, or tell people where to find us...
link to Youtube Or at least it's title ???
It's very good, well done hackenslash!!
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I've got dozens of "friends" from RDF that I only know through there, and now can't contact them.
16 of us are meeting up at the Melbourne conference in 2.5 weeks, and can exchange details then with those we don't have. But we were still yet to finalise meet-up details and shit like that. I wish I'd had the chance to exchange e-mail addresses or phone numbers before the great RD.net lock out.
Mine is sdurro@hotmail.com anyhow.
Steve
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16 of us are meeting up at the Melbourne conference in 2.5 weeks, and can exchange details then with those we don't have. But we were still yet to finalise meet-up details and shit like that. I wish I'd had the chance to exchange e-mail addresses or phone numbers before the great RD.net lock out.
Mine is sdurro@hotmail.com anyhow.
Steve
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Interest is way high ... Go for it Jerome, hack and MezilleXamonas Chegwé wrote:Sounds good. gauge the interest levels and then let us know what we need to do to help set it up.Jerome23 wrote:REPENT SINNERS! No don't actually, be bloody boring if you did.Mr.Samsa wrote:A theist is the ONLY winner of an RDF science writing competition! We should have known the apocalypse was coming...I'm really really hoping we can move the contest here, if the admins will allow it? I'll pm everyone who entered and copy all the posts across if need be? We will need a new name though, like the "Bugger Richard Dawkins Forum Science Writing Contest"...
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no fences
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klr wrote:And as to the above, I'm afraid I must concur in the matter of the general sentiment.Ilovelucy wrote:Josh Timonen is a fucking cunt.
It wasn't flagged by users, so it must have been the big bad wolf ...I'm With Stupid wrote:Hmm your post has mysteriously disappeared CJ. I'm guessing mine will go the same way.
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:CJ wrote:Frankly appalling the way you have been treated, Josh must be a complete and unadulterated *********![]()
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Too many letters for "Cunt". What gives?
Ofer FUCKSAKES guys. Cunt, is he?
Would you like to like, kiss or fondle a 'Josh Timonen'?
You, sirs, are disrespecting the word CUNT when you post like this.
I understand you are feeling strongly but, please, call him something more appropriate.
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Is this a bad time to say that I am glad you are here so I can still hound you for your book. It might be tough to find since I don't think your name is really 'Durro'...Durro wrote:Hi Guys,
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I'm fucking pissed off.
:pissed:
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Re: Announcement about RDF
Indeed.Living in a comunist country, I am frightfully surprised of the trend of atheists groups to play a "daddy knows best" system. Rationalia apart of that, of course, where a more accurate spirit of "Daddy knows shit", reigns ...
no fences
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I just discovered that you can PM at RD.net, only not very often. (I tried to PM hours ago but it said "you can't make another post so soon, blah blah". A few minutes ago I tried again and it worked. Then I tried again and got the same "you can't make another post so soon, and we at RD.net are a bunch of cunts and we hate you and will piss on you as soon as we get a chance.")Durro wrote:I've got dozens of "friends" from RDF that I only know through there, and now can't contact them.
16 of us are meeting up at the Melbourne conference in 2.5 weeks, and can exchange details then with those we don't have. But we were still yet to finalise meet-up details and shit like that. I wish I'd had the chance to exchange e-mail addresses or phone numbers before the great RD.net lock out.
Mine is sdurro@hotmail.com anyhow.
Steve
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