Republicans: continued

[Brian Peacock]

No doubt he's just checking he's supported his thesis and collated his sources before writing it up.

I'm considering suspending you until your commie-fist icon changes colour again.

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I take it you don't support the Ukraine people's right to self determination?

[Sean Hayden]

On Kendi, why bother, what exactly do you find convincing? I haven't seen much I can support, and intellectuals I'm inclined to respect say the guy's full of shit. --hasn't ever written more than a children's book actually, ouch.

[Cunt]

No doubt he's just checking he's supported his thesis and collated his sources before writing it up.

I'm considering suspending you until your commie-fist icon changes colour again.

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I take it you don't support the Ukraine people's right to self determination?

You take whatever you want. I don't expect you to ever go for understanding, just whatever binary is pushed by corporate media at the time.

[Brian Peacock]

No doubt he's just checking he's supported his thesis and collated his sources before writing it up.

I'm considering suspending you until your commie-fist icon changes colour again.

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I take it you don't support the Ukraine people's right to self determination?

You take whatever you want. I don't expect you to ever go for understanding, just whatever binary is pushed by corporate media at the time.

I'm in favour of the binary option 'self-determination' over 'no self-determination'. If you can show me a reasonable middle-ground between the two I'm all ears.

[Cunt]

No thanks. You can find other opinions, and even oppose them, without us trying to understand each other.

If you do discuss it with someone free to do so, let me know. I might enjoy reading along.

[Brian Peacock]

Oh, I see. You said it wasn't binary but you're not free speak honestly where you are. That's fine. I wouldn't like you to put yourself in jeopardy - let alone embarrass you in front of you friends.

[Cunt]

Oh, I see. You said it wasn't binary but you're not free speak honestly where you are. That's fine. I wouldn't like you to put yourself in jeopardy - let alone embarrass you in front of you friends.

Nice avatar. Does that colour change mean you stopped supporting BLM after they got caught buying commie mansions for themselves, with money donated to their org?

Or is it just the latest Disney-promoted colour scheme?

[Brian Peacock]

It's cute that you want to make this all about me.

[Joe]

No need. I heard him define racism. That's all I need.

What was unclear about his definition? And on whose podcast did you hear him define it?

He said racism was racist, and racism. His own words, when asked a plain question.

https://twitter.com/JohnHMcWhorter/stat ... 3221946372

I wonder if he would stammer and fail as hilariously if asked to define 'woman' lol

What you said that he said is not what he said, nor what he meant, nor does it represent the totality of his views boiled down into one sentence. Have you watched the entire presentation? Again, what exactly are you unclear about? Try and be specific.

Brian, I get this feeling of deja vu. I can't quite put my finger on it...wait, now I remember.

I did hear Ibram X Kendi (what was his real name?) answer simple questions.

They asked him 'what is racism'. His definition was enlightening. He's a fucking idiot. Feel free to look it up, but basically, he stammered out 'it's when racists are racisming and its racist'.

He's quite clear on the matter:

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So let’s set some definitions. What is racism? Racism is a marriage of racist policies and racist ideas that produces and normalizes racial inequities. Okay, so what are racist policies and ideas? We have to define them separately to understand why they are married and why they interact so well together. In fact, let’s take one step back and consider the definition of another important phrase: racial inequity.

Racial inequity is when two or more racial groups are not standing on approximately equal footing. Here’s an example of racial inequity: 71 percent of White families lived in owner-occupied homes in 2014, compared to 45 percent of Latinx families and 41 percent of Black families. Racial equity is when two or more racial groups are standing on a relatively equal footing. An example of racial equity would be if there were relatively equitable percentages of all three racial groups living in owner-occupied homes in the forties, seventies, or, better, nineties.

A racist policy is any measure that produces or sustains racial inequity between racial groups. An antiracist policy is any measure that produces or sustains racial equity between racial groups. By policy, I mean written and unwritten laws, rules, procedures, processes, regulations, and guidelines that govern people. There is no such thing as a nonracist or race-neutral policy. Every policy in every institution in every community in every nation is producing or sustaining either racial inequity or equity between racial groups.

Racist policies have been described by other terms: “institutional racism,” “structural racism,” and “systemic racism,” for instance. But those are vaguer terms than “racist policy.” When I use them I find myself having to immediately explain what they mean. “Racist policy” is more tangible and exacting, and more likely to be immediately understood by people, including its victims, who may not have the benefit of extensive fluency in racial terms. “Racist policy” says exactly what the problem is and where the problem is. “Institutional racism” and “structural racism” and “systemic racism” are redundant. Racism itself is institutional, structural, and systemic.

“Racist policy” also cuts to the core of racism better than “racial discrimination,” another common phrase. “Racial discrimination” is an immediate and visible manifestation of an underlying racial policy. When someone discriminates against a person in a racial group, they are carrying out a policy or taking advantage of the lack of a protective policy. We all have the power to discriminate. Only an exclusive few have the power to make policy. Focusing on “racial discrimination” takes our eyes off the central agents of racism: racist policy and racist policymakers, or what I call racist power.

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Ibram X. Kendi, How To Be an Antiracist. Penguin, 2019 (Amazon link)

That was probably too much for our member from Yellowknife to remember.

[Cunt]

Ya, still don't want to read the 'commie-race-baiting' guy. Thanks though.

I would recommend a different author, to enlighten about racism against black people in the US. He wrote 'Can't Hurt Me', but he doesn't play the victim, so it might not suit.

If I get my wish for the 2024 Republican ticket, it is going to be Musk/Sanders. I think it would be funniest, and could yield jokes like 'Bernie Musk', or 'Colonel Elon Sanders'.

[Joe]

Ya, still don't want to read the 'commie-race-baiting' guy. Thanks though.

Understood, it's a lot of words.

[Sean Hayden]

Yar, that's an obvious smear. Anyone can fuck it up live. As his supporters note however, he's very clear about his understanding of racism in his books.

And why shouldn't he be, he's taken one side or the other of this debate since childhood. It has occupied his entire intellectual life.

[Cunt]

Yar, that's an obvious smear. Anyone can fuck it up live. As his supporters note however, he's very clear about his understanding of racism in his books.

And why shouldn't he be, he's taken one side or the other of this debate since childhood. It has occupied his entire intellectual life.

So check out Goggins (Can't Hurt Me). He has a whole life, which doesn't revolve around being a racist, or a victim. Also, some things to learn even if you disagreed with his descriptions of racism.

[Brian Peacock]

Ya, still don't want to read the 'commie-race-baiting' guy. Thanks though.

Hmm. How is being a self-declared black anti-racist 'race-baiting' exactly? What race is being baited, and how?

[pErvinalia]

If I get my wish for the 2024 Republican ticket, it is going to be Musk/Sanders. I think it would be funniest, and could yield jokes like 'Bernie Musk', or 'Colonel Elon Sanders'.

Aren't jokes supposed to be funny?