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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Cunt » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:56 am

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Cunt simply needs to take one for the team... :tea:
I don't have that kind of...um...respect for Galaxian.

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Galaxian » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:21 am

JimC wrote:
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I think that you probably belong to the human race, but I could be wrong - Galaxian would know for sure... :tea:
Thank you. There's no such thing as 'the human race'. It's the 'human species'. A race is a synonym for subspecies, of which humans have over a dozen. Any disavowal of that fact is based on racism and blind ignorance of taxonomy/systematics (even if it's a so-called 'scientist' making it). This an area infested with dumbfuck sociologists & populist hucksters... :coffee:
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by rainbow » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:31 am

Galaxian wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:21 am
JimC wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:17 am
I think that you probably belong to the human race, but I could be wrong - Galaxian would know for sure... :tea:
Thank you. There's no such thing as 'the human race'. It's the 'human species'. A race is a synonym for subspecies, of which humans have over a dozen. Any disavowal of that fact is based on racism and blind ignorance of taxonomy/systematics (even if it's a so-called 'scientist' making it). This an area infested with dumbfuck sociologists & populist hucksters... :coffee:
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:42 am

Galaxian wrote:
JimC wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:17 am
I think that you probably belong to the human race, but I could be wrong - Galaxian would know for sure... :tea:
Thank you. There's no such thing as 'the human race'. It's the 'human species'. A race is a synonym for subspecies, of which humans have over a dozen. Any disavowal of that fact is based on racism and blind ignorance of taxonomy/systematics (even if it's a so-called 'scientist' making it). This an area infested with dumbfuck sociologists & populist hucksters... :coffee:
The real Galaxian would never have poisoned the well so eagerly or so blatantly. You have little right to post under that username.
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Post by Tero » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:20 pm

"The U.S. Treasury Department must release $679 million in coronavirus relief funding for tribes that it intended to withhold while a court challenge over the agency’s initial round of payments to tribal governments played out in court, a federal judge ruled late Monday."

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:04 pm

That's good news. The Trump administration appears to be going out of its way to screw over the Indians in the pandemic. Indian health agencies have asked the federal government to help them with epidemiological data and coordinating their response with the government, for instance, and the feds told them to deal with the states. Since up to now tribes primarily have dealt with the federal government they often don't have established relationships with state or county health agencies. In turn, those agencies are reluctant to share data with the tribes.

'American Indian tribes thwarted in efforts to get coronavirus data'
Federal and state health agencies are refusing to give Native American tribes and organizations representing them access to data showing how the coronavirus is spreading around their lands, potentially widening health disparities and frustrating tribal leaders already ill-equipped to contain the pandemic.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has turned down tribal epidemiologists’ requests for data that it’s making freely available to states. Authorities in Michigan and Massachusetts since early spring have also resisted handing over information on testing and confirmed cases, citing privacy concerns, and refused to strike agreements with tribes on contact tracing or other surveillance, eight tribal leaders and health experts told POLITICO. In some instances, officials questioned tribes' legal standing as sovereign entities.

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Native American organizations have repeatedly run into roadblocks trying to get data from federal officials over the past month. The CDC has denied a series of requests from the nation’s 12 tribal epidemiology centers for raw coronavirus data — even though state health departments are allowed to freely access the information.

The tribal epidemiology centers were originally created to coordinate public health efforts between tribes and state and federal agencies. And under the Affordable Care Act, the centers are considered public health authorities on a par with state health departments and federal agencies such as the CDC.

But Abigail Echo-Hawk, the director of the Urban Indian Health Institute, told POLITICO that the CDC has so far rebuffed the centers’ requests — telling her only that the data is nonpublic.

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Tribal organizations are supposed to deal directly with the federal government, because of longstanding federal trust obligations that established them as sovereign entities.

But the Trump administration has largely directed tribes to work with state and local officials on coronavirus issues, including obtaining medical supplies and coordinating response efforts.

That's left the tribes trying to build new relationships during a public health crisis. The Indian Health Service — the main federal agency charged with caring for American Indians and Alaska Natives — does not keep data on hospitalizations or mortality rates for signs of emerging outbreaks, said Fawn Sharp, the president of the National Congress of American Indians.

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:08 am

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by rainbow » Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:06 am

There is a projected 201 000 number of deaths in the USA by October 2020.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

...not taking into account spreader events like Trump rallies.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:33 am

Jeez, 200,000?

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:14 pm

rainbow wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:06 am
There is a projected 201 000 number of deaths in the USA by October 2020.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

...not taking into account spreader events like Trump rallies.
It could be even worse than that. How exactly are they going to stop it? They don't seem to want to do it now after it's killed so many people.
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Post by rainbow » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:53 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:14 pm
rainbow wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:06 am
There is a projected 201 000 number of deaths in the USA by October 2020.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

...not taking into account spreader events like Trump rallies.
It could be even worse than that. How exactly are they going to stop it? They don't seem to want to do it now after it's killed so many people.
We might need to check again in two weeks time and see how the Tulsa event bent the curve.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:10 pm

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But she's not Dutch. Even worse, she's British! :o
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