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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:57 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:Manipulation? Of course not.

Scientist produces own Florida Covid-19 count after being fired by state
Dr Rebekah Jones says she refused to manipulate data
Florida has reopened despite only one county meeting criteria

A scientist who was fired from overseeing Florida’s Covid-19 database has created her own coronavirus dashboard – which she says proves Florida is not ready to reopen.

“DoH publishes total cases, not positive people,” her website says.

“Additionally, cases are not currently created for those who receive positive antibody test results, and so DoH excludes them from that total. We show the total number of people who have definitive lab results showing they have or have had Covid-19 regardless of the type of test.”

Florida recorded record levels of new coronavirus cases over the weekend, ABC News reported. On Sunday, the state health department reported a second consecutive day of more than 2,000 new cases.

According to data from the Washington Post, in June Florida experienced its highest seven-day average of coronavirus cases since the beginning of the pandemic.

Jones’s database says Liberty county, in the north-west of the state, does meet criteria for reopening. Other counties do not.
It is all political.
I thought "they" were inflating figures to enact more social control. It's almost as if your previous arguments served your purpose at the time, but no more.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:35 am

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Sure, and (as many of us have been saying consistently) the data discrepancies all point in the direction that the crisis is worse than government data suggests, not better...

You beat me to it, Brian! :D
There is no evidence for that but more evidence of bad data collecting or are you unaware of that simple fact. It works both ways and the simple conclusion is that you cannot trust the data.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:50 am

If you wonder why other countries are not allowing any Brits in:

New Zealand ends Covid-free run with two cases from UK
Pair drove nearly 650km to visit dying parent after being released early from quarantine but officials claim public were not at risk

New Zealand has recorded its first new cases of coronavirus for 24 days after two women who arrived in the country from Britain were found to be infected.

The pair were released early from government quarantine and permitted to drive from the city of Auckland to Wellington, the capital – nearly 650km away – before being diagnosed or even tested, health officials said.

Their trip was an approved exemption from the mandatory isolation period for new arrivals to the country in order to visit a dying parent. The women had “done everything right” and had not put other members of the public at risk, said Ashley Bloomfield, New Zealand’s director-general of health, on Tuesday.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:57 am

We know why you wouldn't let Brits in.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:37 pm

Oh noes - Kiwi compassion smarts! Make it stop!
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Post by Cunt » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:47 pm

The Brits should learn about the 'peaceful protest' exclusion currently in use in some jurisdictions.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:16 am

The oh so wonderful New Zealand:

New Zealand puts Covid-19 quarantine in hands of military after border fiasco
Prime minister says release of two overseas arrivals without being tested ‘should never have happened and it cannot be repeated’

The New Zealand prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, has branded as an “unacceptable failure” a quarantine blunder that meant two arrivals from Britain left managed isolation in New Zealand without being tested for the coronavirus – which they were later diagnosed with.

“It should never have happened and it cannot be repeated,” Ardern said on Wednesday, adding that the defence force would now oversee the quarantine of new arrivals and audit the quarantine process.

Ardern also said she would temporarily remove the compassionate exemption under which the pair were released from quarantine early.

Health officials are tracing 320 people who are regarded as “close contacts” of the women, and they will be urged to get tested. Close contacts could include passengers on their flight to New Zealand and other quarantined travellers at their Auckland hotel, as well as hotel staff and flight crew. The women were now in isolation with a relative, officials said.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:51 am

It's a military coup!
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:49 pm

my chemistry magazine e version:
On June 8, the personal genomics company 23andMe released preliminary results from a study of 750,000 people that came to similar conclusions. The company found that people with blood type O were 9-18% less likely to get COVID-19 than people with other blood types. The results from both of these recent studies align with those from a handful of other reports published earlier this year, including two preprints from a Wuhan (medRxiv 2020, DOI: 10.1101/2020.03.11.20031096) and a New York hospital (medRxiv 2020, DOI: 10.1101/2020.04.08.20058073), and a peer-reviewed study from Wuhan (Br. J. Hematol. 2020, DOI: 10.1111/bjh.16797).

It’s hard to say much about the 23andMe results because the company did not publish its data, says Fumiichiro Yamamoto, an immunohematologist at the Josep Carreras Leukaemia Research Institute in Barcelona, who identified the gene that encodes the blood type antigens in the 1990s. But, he says, the evidence of a link between risk of severe COVID-19 disease and blood type is now solid.

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Post by NineBerry » Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:51 pm

It's just risk. You can still become seriously ill and die with blood type 0

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by NineBerry » Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:14 pm

NineBerry wrote:
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What's going to happen next:

April 20th: Scientists find out that cats are a major vector in spreading the virus
April 30th: Governments decide, all cats are going to be culled
May 15th: All cats gone. Cat pictures are banned on the internet.
Still on time:
Two pet cats in New York state have tested positive for the coronavirus, marking the first cases in companion animals in the United States, federal officials said Wednesday.

The cats, which had mild respiratory illnesses and are expected to recover, are thought to have contracted the virus from people in their households or neighborhoods, the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said.
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Germany introduced a requirement that pets or other animals infected with the Rona must be reported to the authorities.

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Post by Cunt » Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:31 pm

NineBerry wrote:
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Germany introduced a requirement that pets or other animals infected with the Rona must be reported to the authorities.
I guess they should kill all the cats.

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Post by Cunt » Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:23 pm

Scot Dutchy should rest a bit. Steven can take over for a few minutes.

Someone should take responsibility and attack his character right away, but I'm busy with a run.
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