Climate change denialism
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Re: Climate change denialism
Democrats fly in airplanes, so climate change is not real
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Re: Climate change denialism
There goes any respect I've had for Meatloaf.
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You had respect for Meatloaf?
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Yeah, he used to call him Mr Loaf.
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Re: Climate change denialism
He was good in The Rocky Horror Show, Fight Club, Tenacious D.
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Here's an excellent video, autobiography at the beginning. He is very prolific & energetic. Takes no prisoners.Tero wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:15 pmThe latest subject is hysteria, fueled by the Greta movement
Heller is actually...Steven Goddard
https://www.desmogblog.com/steven-goddard
Clearly shows here that born-again climatologists are liars deviously pushing a totalitarian agenda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh-DNNIUjKU
Here's an overview of world climate past heat waves. When the mass media are conniving with climatology crooks, ask questions!
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YouTube, the greatest scientific publication the world has seen.
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pErvinalia; greatest intellect world's ever seen. But prefers rock art. Videos are too difficult for him! Makes do with one-linerspErvinalia wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:31 amYouTube, the greatest scientific publication the world has seen.
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Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:46 pmHere's couple more good ones about the Nobel Piece of Shit Prize Nominee Princess:
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Galaxian wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:51 amLook up metaphor.Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:46 pmHere's couple more good ones about the Nobel Piece of Shit Prize Nominee Princess:
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As much as I hate deniers, nationalists, Trumpists et al., there is a bit of a point, for once, in the Greta lampooning above. There is no way we can get anywhere with carbon emissions if we think we just need to shift our consuming somehow to "green" products and services. It will help, but we will need to do major changes in housing and transportation and cut down spending overall. A simpler world where consuming does not make us happy. Waiting for that package from Amazon.
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
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Greta's protest started because, being a bit of a science nerd, she noticed that the Swedish government weren't acting on their own analysis of climate science or living up to their rhetoric on the environment. It's only the deniers and business-as-usual brigade who are keen to make her responsible for child exploitation in order to cast her as a hypocrite for eating a sandwich on a train while children are starving elsewhere. One presumes that their own train sandwiches are morally benign. They do this because they know that addressing polluters and CO2 levels will require a redrawing of the economic landscape. The polluters et al have stolen her future, just like they've been stealing the futures of children and adults in the global South for, well, forever.
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Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
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Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
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All in all the effort in Europe has been pitiful. Sweden is ahead of most but still uses a lot of energy. Being so far North, heating is unavoidable, though new housing could be planned.Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:56 pmGreta's protest started because, being a bit of a science nerd, she noticed that the Swedish government weren't acting on their own analysis of climate science or living up to their rhetoric on the environment. It's only the deniers and business-as-usual brigade who are keen to make her responsible for child exploitation in order to cast her as a hypocrite for eating a sandwich on a train while children are starving elsewhere. One presumes that their own train sandwiches are morally benign. They do this because they know that addressing polluters and CO2 levels will require a redrawing of the economic landscape. The polluters et al have stolen her future, just like they've been stealing the futures of children and adults in the global South for, well, forever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Sweden
35% is nuclear. They had planned to get rid of it but obviously can't. We will hang on to nuclear and build smller, safer reactors (Thorium?)
"Hydroelectric power in Sweden accounts for more than half of energy production." this is good, most countries do not have that.
" The emissions per capita were in Sweden 5.58 and in Finland 9.93 tonnes per capita in 2009.2
That is due to the lack of hydroelectric. Finland should dump coal and go all propane. But with Putin in power, unlikely.
Germany:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Germany
As of 2016, around 40% of the electricity in the country is generated from coal.[12] This was slightly down from 2013, when coal made up about 45% of Germany's electricity production (19% from hard coal and 26% from lignite)
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late
Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late
Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...
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I copied most of that to a new topic, energy.
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late
Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late
Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...
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