Should the UK have a second Brexit referendum?

[Svartalf]

Honestly, that macron quote was stinky wind. Art50... no provisions for reversing it. UK will be out, it will take at least 20 or 30 years before it is readmitted.

[Scot Dutchy]

Honestly, that macron quote was stinky wind. Art50... no provisions for reversing it. UK will be out, it will take at least 20 or 30 years before it is readmitted.

At least. It would not meet the requirements today never mind in the future.

[Svartalf]

I just feel sorry for the Scots.

[Scot Dutchy]

Yep and the Northern Irish. The sooner unification of the island takes place within the EU the better for all.

[Svartalf]

The prods are NOT gonna let Unification take place, I don't know how long they'll be able to stave it off, but I expect the Troubles to come back.

[Scot Dutchy]

The prods are NOT gonna let Unification take place, I don't know how long they'll be able to stave it off, but I expect the Troubles to come back.

Well they are not a clear majority any more. The DUP are only in power of three counties (all at the coast). I dont think the Troubles will return. Peace along the border has done wonders and what a few idiots in Derry or Belfast may want is definitely not what the people want. If the EU hangs out a nice fat carrot to NI I think plenty will take it.

[Hermit]

The EU would not be happy to reverse anything. UK has been a troublemaker for all of it's membership... most members are happy to be able to do without them. plus, the less players in the game, the easier it is to manage the community. I will take quite some time before old rancours get assuaged.

The EU will readmit the UK the very instant at which readmission is deemed to be of net benefit. Rancour will not feature in the decision-making process. The bottom line will.

[Svartalf]

You underestimate old enmities. Even the people at the top of the process don't really belong to the homo economicus species, and the UK really has been going out of its way to be as disagreeable and disruptive a member of the EU as possible, even since Maggie got ousted from power.

[Rum]

(Edit: response to Hermit's last)

Very true and given the UK is the largest recipient of goods from several EU countries (including the Netherlands), if the 'deal' isn't right for both sides and the negotiations get completely stuck, a new referendum is a possibility.

Not that I'm sure I want back in if Svarty and SD's attitudes are typical!

[Scot Dutchy]

The EU would not be happy to reverse anything. UK has been a troublemaker for all of it's membership... most members are happy to be able to do without them. plus, the less players in the game, the easier it is to manage the community. I will take quite some time before old rancours get assuaged.

The EU will readmit the UK the very instant at which readmission is deemed to be of net benefit. Rancour will not feature in the decision-making process. The bottom line will.

Where as that been stated? Who has agreed? There are rules to follow and the UK cant match them.

[Hermit]

You overestimate old enmities.

You overestimate the pervasiveness of Gallic vindictiveness. Even in France it has assumed the state of permanent abeyance. The frogs have been getting on very well with the krauts for many decades now, don't you think?

[Scot Dutchy]

(Edit: response to Hermit's last)

Very true and given the UK is the largest recipient of goods from several EU countries (including the Netherlands), if the 'deal' isn't right for both sides and the negotiations get completely stuck, a new referendum is a possibility.

Not that I'm sure I want back in if Svarty and SD's attitudes are typical!

Bollocks of course. Post Colonial Trauma appearing again. What fucking right do you think you have to be re-admitted when there is a queue?

You dont realise how all this has done to the UK's standing in the rest of the EU. It was never high but now it is rock bottom.

[Hermit]

The EU would not be happy to reverse anything. UK has been a troublemaker for all of it's membership... most members are happy to be able to do without them. plus, the less players in the game, the easier it is to manage the community. I will take quite some time before old rancours get assuaged.

The EU will readmit the UK the very instant at which readmission is deemed to be of net benefit. Rancour will not feature in the decision-making process. The bottom line will.

Where as that been stated?

Nowhere. It's my prediction, which is based on what usually happens when money is involved.

[Scot Dutchy]

You overestimate old enmities.

You overestimate the pervasiveness of Gallic vindictiveness. Even in France it has assumed the state of permanent abeyance. The frogs have been getting on very well with the krauts for many decades now, don't you think?

Not just France and Germany. You will find few friends in the 27 with the exception of Poland of course but they are already beyond the pale.

[Scot Dutchy]

The EU would not be happy to reverse anything. UK has been a troublemaker for all of it's membership... most members are happy to be able to do without them. plus, the less players in the game, the easier it is to manage the community. I will take quite some time before old rancours get assuaged.

The EU will readmit the UK the very instant at which readmission is deemed to be of net benefit. Rancour will not feature in the decision-making process. The bottom line will.

Where as that been stated?

Nowhere. It's my prediction, which is based on what usually happens when money is involved.

Based on what? Pure arrogance again. Sorry a few years in the cold will do the UK a load of good.