Pope Francis calls for power to move away from Vatican

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Pope Francis calls for power to move away from Vatican

Post by FBM » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:39 pm

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Pope Francis calls for power to move away from Vatican


Pope Francis has called for power in the Catholic Church to be devolved away from the Vatican, in the first major work he has written in the role.

In the document, he says he is open to suggestions to changes in the power of the papacy.

He also warns that rising global economic inequality is bound to explode in conflict.

Since becoming Pope in March, Francis has struck a markedly different tone to his predecessor on several issues.
In his "apostolic exhortation", Pope Francis said he preferred a Church that was "bruised, hurting and dirty because it has been out on the streets, rather than a Church which is unhealthy from being confined and from clinging to its own security".

The document suggests major changes are on the way, with Francis noting that the Church has to get over an attitude that says: "We have always done it this way," the BBC's David Willey reports from Rome.

It represents an ambitious programme to try to rekindle his church's missionary zeal, our correspondent says.

However, the document reiterates the Church's opposition to the ordination of female priests, saying this is "not a question open to discussion".

The document also touches on inter-faith relations, urging Christians to "embrace with affection and respect Muslim immigrants to our countries in the same way that we hope and ask to be received and respected in countries of Islamic tradition".

'Idolatry of money'
Last month Pope Francis held his first meeting with a special group of cardinals to consider ways to reform the Vatican bureaucracy after saying in a newspaper interview that the Vatican had become too self-interested and needed to be inclusive.

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I beg the Lord to grant us more politicians who are genuinely disturbed by the state of society”

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"Excessive centralization, rather than proving helpful, complicates the Church's life and her missionary outreach," he says in the latest document.

He also says he does not believe that the papacy "should be expected to offer a definitive or complete word on every question which affects the Church and the world".

This month the Vatican launched an unprecedented survey of the views of lay Catholics on modern family life and sexual ethics.

The document does restate the Church's opposition to abortion but concedes that "it is also true that we have done little to adequately accompany women in very difficult situations,... especially when the life developing within them is the result of rape or a situation of extreme poverty".

"Who can remain unmoved before such painful situations?" he asks.

Pope Francis also expands on his concerns about economic inequality.

"Today we also have to say "thou shalt not" to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills," he says, going on to castigate the "new idolatry of money".

"I beg the Lord to grant us more politicians who are genuinely disturbed by the state of society, the people, the lives of the poor!" he goes on.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:45 pm

Just reading that Putin is to make Berlusconi Russia's ambassador to the Vatican.
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Post by Mysturji » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:48 pm

FBM wrote:
Pope Francis calls for power to move away from Vatican
How about moving power away from the catholic church?
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Post by FBM » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:50 pm

I am not understanding.
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Re: Pope Francis calls for power to move away from Vatican

Post by hadespussercats » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:09 pm

Global inequality is the big problem. Except for sexual inequality. All women need is the church's company. And knowing that the church is very moved by the fact of their victimization by rape and/or poverty.

And this guy is the radical, forward- thinking one. I am not impressed.

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Post by Tero » Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:36 pm

Socialist! Just like Jesus.

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Post by Svartalf » Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:49 pm

He's gonna pull a John Paul I pretty soon is my guess.
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Post by cronus » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:31 pm

When he speaks of power he means spiritual power not actual power in the real world. Learn to read between the lines. :read:
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Post by Mysturji » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:37 pm

Scrumple wrote:When he speaks of power he means spiritual power not actual power in the real world. Learn to read between the lines. :read:
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Post by JimC » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:11 pm

Bah!

How many divisions has the Vatican got?
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Post by Animavore » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:39 pm

Hopefully they move to another planet.
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Post by FBM » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:24 pm

^Best solution.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:35 am

He'll be "retired" soon, at this rate.
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Re: Pope Francis calls for power to move away from Vatican

Post by JimC » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:48 am

rEvolutionist wrote:He'll be "retired" soon, at this rate.
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