Orca kills trainer.

[Deep Sea Isopod]

http://www.wdcs.org/stop/captivity/stor ... select=537

Sad story. Sympathies to the family.

IMO, this Orca should never have been in that swimming pool anyway.


BUT MY MAIN GRIPE.......

It's a fucking dolphin, not a whale!!!!! If I have to say this again, I'll fucking scream!! :pissed:

[Hyrax]

http://www.wdcs.org/stop/captivity/stor ... select=537

Sad story. Sympathies to the family.

IMO, this Orca should never have been in that swimming pool anyway.


BUT MY MAIN GRIPE.......

It's a fucking dolphin, not a whale!!!!! If I have to say this again, I'll fucking scream!! :pissed:

Nah it's just a big fish

IMO no Orca or any other Cetacean should ever be kept in any swimming pool, (water)tank, (battle)tank or bath tub for any reason other than rehabilitation. To be honest battle tanks are not ideally suited to that purpose either

[Feck]

Don't keep things that should be roaming the the oceans it your bath tub and then wonder why you get bitten.

[Deep Sea Isopod]

http://www.wdcs.org/stop/captivity/stor ... select=537

Sad story. Sympathies to the family.

IMO, this Orca should never have been in that swimming pool anyway.


BUT MY MAIN GRIPE.......

It's a fucking dolphin, not a whale!!!!! If I have to say this again, I'll fucking scream!! :pissed:

Nah it's just a big fish

[Deep Sea Isopod]

Don't keep things that should be roaming the the oceans it your bath tub and then wonder why you get bitten.

http://www.wdcs.org/stop/captivity/stor ... select=537

There are currently thought to be 42 orcas held in captivity in aquaria around the world. Half of these are held at three Sea World parks in the USA. Since 1961, 136 orcas have been taken into captivity from the wild. 123 of these unfortunate animals are now dead, surviving only an average of four years in captivity. This situation contrasts dramatically with orca survival in the wild, where individuals can live for up to 90 years.

[Hyrax]

Don't keep things that should be roaming the the oceans it your bath tub and then wonder why you get bitten.

http://www.wdcs.org/stop/captivity/stor ... select=537

There are currently thought to be 42 orcas held in captivity in aquaria around the world. Half of these are held at three Sea World parks in the USA. Since 1961, 136 orcas have been taken into captivity from the wild. 123 of these unfortunate animals are now dead, surviving only an average of four years in captivity. This situation contrasts dramatically with orca survival in the wild, where individuals can live for up to 90 years.

If I recall correctly there was a female discovered some time ago (the matrirch of her pod unsurprisingly) with a piece of WWI shrapnel in an old wound proving she was at least 96 years old.

[Deep Sea Isopod]

Don't keep things that should be roaming the the oceans it your bath tub and then wonder why you get bitten.

http://www.wdcs.org/stop/captivity/stor ... select=537

There are currently thought to be 42 orcas held in captivity in aquaria around the world. Half of these are held at three Sea World parks in the USA. Since 1961, 136 orcas have been taken into captivity from the wild. 123 of these unfortunate animals are now dead, surviving only an average of four years in captivity. This situation contrasts dramatically with orca survival in the wild, where individuals can live for up to 90 years.

If I recall correctly there was a female discovered some time ago (the matrirch of her pod unsurprisingly) with a piece of WWI shrapnel in an old wound proving she was at least 96 years old.

If you can find something on this, I'll be interested.

[Valden]

Don't keep things that should be roaming the the oceans it your bath tub and then wonder why you get bitten.

http://www.wdcs.org/stop/captivity/stor ... select=537

There are currently thought to be 42 orcas held in captivity in aquaria around the world. Half of these are held at three Sea World parks in the USA. Since 1961, 136 orcas have been taken into captivity from the wild. 123 of these unfortunate animals are now dead, surviving only an average of four years in captivity. This situation contrasts dramatically with orca survival in the wild, where individuals can live for up to 90 years.

If I recall correctly there was a female discovered some time ago (the matrirch of her pod unsurprisingly) with a piece of WWI shrapnel in an old wound proving she was at least 96 years old.

If you can find something on this, I'll be interested.

Agreed! That sounds amazing.

As for Tilikum, this is the first time he's actually outright killed anyone. The first time, he had help with a couple other Orca's and the person died from a bite, not from drowning.
The second time an idiot died from natural selection by getting into the Orca pool and ended up freezing too death.

This time it looks like the trainer messed up by getting into the water with Tili a bit BEFORE he grabbed her hair (which was up in a pony tail) and was playing with him, when no one was supposed to be in the water with him.
So many think (those that work with Tili and the trainer) that he was simply playing, and did not actually mean to kill her.

Either way, she knew what she was getting herself into. Dolphins may seem all nice and cuddly, but they can be out right vicious if they wanted to be. They're unpredictable.
However I feel for her family. I'd hate to die by drowning. X_X

I don't believe Dolphins should ever be in captivity unless it's for rehabilitation.

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Info on Tili!

He is 23 years old (wild born) is 22.5 feet in length and 12,320 pounds, He the largest Orca in captivity.

[Hyrax]

Don't keep things that should be roaming the the oceans it your bath tub and then wonder why you get bitten.

http://www.wdcs.org/stop/captivity/stor ... select=537

There are currently thought to be 42 orcas held in captivity in aquaria around the world. Half of these are held at three Sea World parks in the USA. Since 1961, 136 orcas have been taken into captivity from the wild. 123 of these unfortunate animals are now dead, surviving only an average of four years in captivity. This situation contrasts dramatically with orca survival in the wild, where individuals can live for up to 90 years.

If I recall correctly there was a female discovered some time ago (the matrirch of her pod unsurprisingly) with a piece of WWI shrapnel in an old wound proving she was at least 96 years old.

If you can find something on this, I'll be interested.

I read it in a pop science book years ago and I can't remember which one! As I own several dozen and have read many more than I own it could prove challenging. Google is being entirely unhelpful

[Blitzkrebs]

Either way, she knew what she was getting herself into. Dolphins may seem all nice and cuddly, but they can be out right vicious if they wanted to be. They're unpredictable.

For everyone else's benefit:

http://www.cracked.com/article_15853_th ... y-you.html

[Deep Sea Isopod]

Don't keep things that should be roaming the the oceans it your bath tub and then wonder why you get bitten.

http://www.wdcs.org/stop/captivity/stor ... select=537

There are currently thought to be 42 orcas held in captivity in aquaria around the world. Half of these are held at three Sea World parks in the USA. Since 1961, 136 orcas have been taken into captivity from the wild. 123 of these unfortunate animals are now dead, surviving only an average of four years in captivity. This situation contrasts dramatically with orca survival in the wild, where individuals can live for up to 90 years.

If I recall correctly there was a female discovered some time ago (the matrirch of her pod unsurprisingly) with a piece of WWI shrapnel in an old wound proving she was at least 96 years old.

If you can find something on this, I'll be interested.

Agreed! That sounds amazing.

As for Tilikum, this is the first time he's actually outright killed anyone. The first time, he had help with a couple other Orca's and the person died from a bite, not from drowning.
The second time an idiot died from natural selection by getting into the Orca pool and ended up freezing too death.

This time it looks like the trainer messed up by getting into the water with Tili a bit BEFORE he grabbed her hair (which was up in a pony tail) and was playing with him, when no one was supposed to be in the water with him.
So many think (those that work with Tili and the trainer) that he was simply playing, and did not actually mean to kill her.

Either way, she knew what she was getting herself into. Dolphins may seem all nice and cuddly, but they can be out right vicious if they wanted to be.

The common "Bottle Nose" is often thought of as cute and cuddly, yet in reality it's a fucking bully! Where a pod of dolphins have been washed ashore and died, some says it's the Navy's sonar disrupting the dolphins sonar, but some experts have said it's the bully "bottle nose" driving them away from their fishing area.
We don't know for sure, but we do know dolphins are still wild animals........

[maiforpeace]

I am sorry someone died. I don't think it should be a big shock to anyone though.

At best I tolerate zoos for people to see wild animals. Theme parks like Marine World, circus shows and acts that employ wild creatures really make me sick. I don't care how humanely they are treating those animals, they are not here for our entertainment and amusement. Leave the poor creatures alone, let them be wild.

[piscator]

no surprise at all...

[Horwood Beer-Master]

http://www.wdcs.org/stop/captivity/stor ... select=537

Sad story. Sympathies to the family.

IMO, this Orca should never have been in that swimming pool anyway.


BUT MY MAIN GRIPE.......

It's a fucking dolphin, not a whale!!!!! If I have to say this again, I'll fucking scream!! :pissed:

Nah it's just a big fish

Orca = Mammal

Mammal = Tetrapod

Tetrapod = Sarcopterygii (i.e. 'Lobe-finned fish')


Therefore, Orca = 'Big fish'

[Deep Sea Isopod]

Orca = Mammal

Mammal = Tetrapod

Tetrapod = Sarcopterygii (i.e. 'Lobe-finned fish')


Therefore, Orca = 'Big fish'

Orca's are less commonly called Blackfish.