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Re: Global Climate Change Science News

Post by Hermit » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:17 am

JimC wrote:
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Great Oz mentality.
Don't make it an "Oz" thing, it is all to do with the pricks in our Federal government, who may well be voted out of office next year...
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It's very similar to to the Brits and the Yanks mentality, both of which are the same. It's called the Anglo-Saxon mentality. The Dutch of course have the Dutch mentality. It's the best.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:10 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
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Cop26 failed in a bid to phase out coal, news that had its president Alok Sharma close to tears. But not everyone’s disappointed – nationals senator Matt Canavan has declared it a great win for Australia’s mining industry.

He told the Nine Network:

Given the fact that the agreement did not say that coal needs to be phased down or taken out, it is a big green light for us to build more coalmines.
The Earth has not won but these cunts cant see that.

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I've known those annual conferences are a total waste ever since the whole huge noise they made about cop21 and the Paris agreement failed to bear any worthwhile fruit. Basically, they are there to make hot air and I assume gorge themselve at meal time. All the important decisions are made at davos anyway.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:35 am

It is always for Anglo-Saxons a battle to "get their way". There is only one loser here; the planet we live on. They are all banking on the one invention that will save it so when it comes along they will exploit it. In the meantime like our member from Cairns they will carry on regardless increasing their personal carbon footprints.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:57 am

Ratchets, phase-downs and a fragile agreement: how Cop26 played out
Last-minute hitch on coal almost reduced Alok Sharma to tears as Glasgow climate pact made imperfect progress

As weary delegates trudged into the Scottish Event Campus on the banks of the Clyde on Saturday, few realised what a mountain they still had to climb. The Cop26 climate talks were long past their official deadline of 6pm on Friday, but there were strong hopes that the big issues had been settled. A deal was tantalisingly close.

The “package” on offer was imperfect – before countries even turned up in Glasgow they were meant to have submitted plans that would cut global carbon output by nearly half by 2030, to limit global heating to 1.5C above pre-industrial levels. Although most countries submitted plans, they were not strong enough and analysis found they would lead to a disastrous 2.4C of heating.
A great bit of greenwashing. When capitalism takes over and the 1% start wagging the dog you cant expect much more. Being pure selfish; I wont see it.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:15 am

After being toasted alive this summer with 50°C heatwaves the Pacific Northwest in now experiencing torrential rain storms and flooding.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:12 am

:tup: He spoke at the pre-COP26 TED event too.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:49 pm

On Behalf Of Environmentalists, I Apologize For The Climate Scare

On behalf of environmentalists everywhere, I would like to formally apologize for the climate scare we created over the last 30 years. Climate change is happening. It’s just not the end of the world. It’s not even our most serious environmental problem.

I may seem like a strange person to be saying all of this. I have been a climate activist for 20 years and an environmentalist for 30.

But as an energy expert asked by Congress to provide objective expert testimony, and invited by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to serve as Expert Reviewer of its next Assessment Report, I feel an obligation to apologize for how badly we environmentalists have misled the public.

Here are some facts few people know:

Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”

The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”

Climate change is not making natural disasters worse

Fires have declined 25% around the world since 2003

The amount of land we use for meat — humankind’s biggest use of land — has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska

The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in Australia and California

Carbon emissions are declining in most rich nations and have been declining in Britain, Germany, and France since the mid-1970s

Netherlands became rich not poor while adapting to life below sea level

We produce 25% more food than we need and food surpluses will continue to rise as the world gets hotter

Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to species than climate change

Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels

Preventing future pandemics requires more not less “industrial” agriculture

I know that the above facts will sound like “climate denialism” to many people. But that just shows the power of climate alarmism.

In reality, the above facts come from the best-available scientific studies, including those conducted by or accepted by the IPCC, the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN) and other leading scientific bodies.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:59 pm

Some of those "facts" sound dubious.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:42 pm

Book review: Bad science and bad arguments abound in ‘Apocalypse Never’ by Michael Shellenberger

A new book that critiques environmentalism is 'deeply and fatally flawed.'
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Post by Tero » Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:55 pm

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Post by macdoc » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:25 pm

Atmospheric river hit very hard into areas also hit by forest fires ....not a good combination.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:24 pm

Great defences...
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