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Post by pErvinalia » Fri May 10, 2024 9:38 pm

Our opposition here in Australia are pushing for SMRs. Cynics suggest it's a ploy to keep using coal for as long as possible.
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Post by JimC » Fri May 10, 2024 10:16 pm

And our government wants to increase our gas production greatly. I realise we are going to need gas for some time, but it should be steadily diminished, not increased...
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Labor, Coalition lite.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat May 11, 2024 8:03 pm

Both the main parties in the UK are also pushing the "gas is a vital component of the green transition" narrative. It's considered a pragmatic response to specific structural issues, whereby proposals for small gas-fired electricity generation plants were given an automatic green light after planning regs were amended in 2014 to make it functionally impossible to object to their construction.

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Post by Svartalf » Sat May 11, 2024 8:43 pm

excuse me, but when you say gas, that means natural gas and is not a short for gasoline.... am I correct?
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat May 11, 2024 9:36 pm

Yeah
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Post by macdoc » Sun May 12, 2024 9:37 pm

From the climate scientists....what can the individual do...?
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon May 13, 2024 8:19 am

Yeah, but are you going to take any notice of it mac?
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Post by macdoc » Mon May 13, 2024 9:44 am

WTF is that supposed to mean? :x
There was a general question about what impact can individuals can have and climate scientists have provided some answers.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon May 13, 2024 6:54 pm

I guess that's a no then.
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Post by macdoc » Mon May 13, 2024 8:23 pm

Notice of what Brian???.....either speak up or shut the fuck up. It's a climate science thread not your social science muddle. :nono:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue May 14, 2024 12:02 am

I'll join the dots for you. In light of what scientists are saying about individual and collective action, are you going to, say, stop eating meat, stop flying, and start agitating for political change? I ask because whenever I've brought up the exact same things here, or elsewhere, you're impulse has been to reflexively object to the idea and/or to chide me for <insert excuse here>.

Similarly, I've previously brought up the same issues reflected in the UCS article on the unrealistic promises made on behalf of SMRs - to which you basically called me a Luddite doom-monger iirc. So what are you going to actually do with what these scientists are telling us - all of which is in the various IPCC reports btw?
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Post by macdoc » Tue May 14, 2024 2:01 am

You do like to make unsupported claims and assumptions
Similarly, I've previously brought up the same issues reflected in the UCS article on the unrealistic promises made on behalf of SMRs - to which you basically called me a Luddite doom-monger iirc
Either show searchable quotes to support your nonsense claims or STFU... :pop:

I will freely admit to thinking of you as a doom monger with no achievable solutions presented but lots of negativity towards efforts that are being made.
Which you then offer up as with the UCS article
This relevant
SMRs may have a role to play in our energy future, but only if they are sufficiently safe and secure
and unlike you I lived in a mostly nuclear powered economy since the nuclear age began which has eliminated coal as an energy source.
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It is proposing SMRs as a lower cost way to expand or replace current nuclear facilities which are aging or growing insufficent.
ALL carbon reducing technologies will be in play ...how the province handles this might be of concern to tax payers as there is a history of over runs and wasteful spending but more nukes are welcome...
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Re: Global Climate Change Science News

Post by aufbahrung » Tue May 14, 2024 5:39 am

World can't be saved. Throw everything at economic growth not worrying about short term blips in carbon. Attain the singularity and use the technology available to place and control a space umbrella above each pole for optimum control of climate. Told you what you should be doing. I'm not the luddite here.

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Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 14, 2024 6:30 am

But you are a doom monger... :lol:
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