ChatGPT - Is The Singularity Over Yet?

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Post by JimC » Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:02 pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-28/ ... /103269036
The New York Times is suing Microsoft and OpenAI, the creator of ChatGPT, claiming millions of its news articles have been misused by the tech companies to train their AI-powered chatbots.

It's the first time one of America's big traditional media companies has taken on the new technology in court. And it sets up a showdown over the increasingly contentious use of copyrighted content to fuel artificial intelligence software.

The legal complaint, which demands a jury trial in a New York district court, says the bots' creators have refused to recognise copyright protections afforded by legislation and the US Constitution. It says the bots, including those incorporated into Microsoft products like its Bing search engine, have repurposed the Times's content to compete with it.

"Times journalists go where the story is, often at great risk and cost, to inform the public about important and pressing issues," the Times's complaint argues.

"Their essential work is made possible through the efforts of a large and expensive organization that provides legal, security, and operational support.

"Defendants' unlawful use of The Times's work to create artificial intelligence products that compete with it threatens The Times's ability to provide that service."

The Times wants the court to hold Microsoft and OpenAI responsible "for the billions of dollars in statutory and actual damages that they owe". It's also requested the "destruction" of parts of the chatbots that incorporate Times content.
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Post by NineBerry » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:30 pm

It's a difficult question. Because the ai does what every human being does. Learning by reading. It doesn't reproduce content. No one will sue a human author although a human couldn't be creative without having read a lot of other people's stuff before.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:31 pm

If you put your ideas into the world, they will be consumed. So what's the problem here? Is it that the consumer is able to produce another product using parts of yours, or that the consumer reaches more people in the end? I'm afraid I don't get it. At best maybe you can charge AI companies more than the average consumer for access to your product --good luck with that.

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Post by JimC » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:14 am

NineBerry wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:30 pm
It's a difficult question. Because the ai does what every human being does. Learning by reading. It doesn't reproduce content. No one will sue a human author although a human couldn't be creative without having read a lot of other people's stuff before.
However, a lot of the content generated by the AI on topics reported in the newspaper doesn't just have the gist of the report, it's almost word for word...
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Post by NineBerry » Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:22 am

JimC wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:14 am
NineBerry wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:30 pm
It's a difficult question. Because the ai does what every human being does. Learning by reading. It doesn't reproduce content. No one will sue a human author although a human couldn't be creative without having read a lot of other people's stuff before.
However, a lot of the content generated by the AI on topics reported in the newspaper doesn't just have the gist of the report, it's almost word for word...
Nah, that's wrong. Large Language Models will generate their own wording and often their own facts. :hehe:

The only exception is Bing Copilot which is more like an AI-powered web search. It does quote from websites but also references its sources with links.

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Post by JimC » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:32 pm

NineBerry wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:22 am
JimC wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:14 am
NineBerry wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:30 pm
It's a difficult question. Because the ai does what every human being does. Learning by reading. It doesn't reproduce content. No one will sue a human author although a human couldn't be creative without having read a lot of other people's stuff before.
However, a lot of the content generated by the AI on topics reported in the newspaper doesn't just have the gist of the report, it's almost word for word...
Nah, that's wrong. Large Language Models will generate their own wording and often their own facts. :hehe:

The only exception is Bing Copilot which is more like an AI-powered web search. It does quote from websites but also references its sources with links.
If you read through the news report I posted, rather than just the excerpt, you will come to a section showing a word-for-word identity example, which the newspaper is using in its legal case...
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Re: ChatGPT - Is The Singularity Over Yet?

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:57 pm

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Re: ChatGPT - Is The Singularity Over Yet?

Post by NineBerry » Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:57 pm

JimC wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:32 pm
If you read through the news report I posted, rather than just the excerpt, you will come to a section showing a word-for-word identity example, which the newspaper is using in its legal case...
Oh but they are cheating. They are specifically asking for the news article. The AI doesn't generate the content based on a general question and doesn't pretend it was its own creation. It quotes an article it has seen when asked for that.

That's a different issue and can easily be prevented by adjusting the morality rules (the "Alignment") of the AI by telling it that quoting larger parts of copyrighted work verbatim is not allowed.

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Re: ChatGPT - Is The Singularity Over Yet?

Post by JimC » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:23 pm

Well, it will be interesting to see how the lawsuit plays out in court...
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