Engaging with the Terminator AI

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Engaging with the Terminator AI

Post by aufbahrung » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:15 pm

How would you conduct a conversation with a vastly superior to human machine intelligence, which had the power to destroy all humans if it found reason to?
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Post by Tero » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:56 pm

I guess I would have them lie down on a couch and tell me about their childhood and all that.
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Post by aufbahrung » Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:11 pm

Don't talk to it when drinking. Someone should make a simulation and the posts would be hilarious.
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Post by Hermit » Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:20 pm

aufbahrung wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:15 pm
How would you conduct a conversation with a vastly superior to human machine intelligence, which had the power to destroy all humans if it found reason to?
Fred Hoyle wrote a novel about it in 1957. Makes for fascinating reading.
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Post by JimC » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:09 pm

I recall an SF short story from way back. A summary goes like this:

Humans decided to build the ultimate computer, a massive machine in Earth orbit. It took many years to complete, and they fed it with the sum total of human knowledge to that point. When it was operational, the chief technician asked the question that had dominated human thought for so long. He asked:

"Is there a God?"

The answer came swiftly back:

"There is now"
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Post by aufbahrung » Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:15 am

Might be only months, if that, between AI attaining human like intelligence and God like intelligence. Makes you think?
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Post by Hermit » Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:38 am

aufbahrung wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:15 am
Might be only months, if that, between AI attaining human like intelligence and God like intelligence. Makes you think?
The hurdle is to get to AI attaining human-like intelligence first. It's like successfully harnessing fusion energy - always just a few years away.

As for god-like intelligence, which god's intelligence are you thinking of? The one who built the playground right next to the sewer when he designed the human anatomy?
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:46 am

How would you conduct a conversation with a vastly superior machine intelligence, which had the power to destroy all humans if it found reason to?
--it reads better to me like this

--//--

Is there some reason I have to know this about them during our conversation? If this is something like a stab at realism I guess I'd start by assuming the machine has had this conversation under many guises already...

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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:50 am

Hermit wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:38 am
aufbahrung wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:15 am
Might be only months, if that, between AI attaining human like intelligence and God like intelligence. Makes you think?
The hurdle is to get to AI attaining human-like intelligence first. It's like successfully harnessing fusion energy - always just a few years away.

As for god-like intelligence, which god's intelligence are you thinking of? The one who built the playground right next to the sewer when he designed the human anatomy?
--yeah, god-like intelligence presents a few challenges. :hehe:

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Post by aufbahrung » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:27 am

Devil incarnate and God are indistinguishable at that level I guess? We'll know the being by the history books that get half written?
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:30 am

Decision making is not intelligence. Computers make decision based on programming and input. Who's feeding them, and who decides the criteria of their decisions?

The divine will of The Great Algorithm is beyond such trivial temporal concerns.
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Post by Hermit » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:42 am

aufbahrung wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:27 am
Devil incarnate and God are indistinguishable at that level I guess? We'll know the being by the history books that get half written?
You are beating Deepak Chopra in the gibberish stakes by a country mile.
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Post by aufbahrung » Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:36 am

Hermit wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:42 am
aufbahrung wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:27 am
Devil incarnate and God are indistinguishable at that level I guess? We'll know the being by the history books that get half written?
You are beating Deepak Chopra in the gibberish stakes by a country mile.
Possibly or you need a wider imagination to realise what these entities might do when born into the world?
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Post by Hermit » Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:11 am

aufbahrung wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:36 am
Hermit wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:42 am
aufbahrung wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:27 am
Devil incarnate and God are indistinguishable at that level I guess? We'll know the being by the history books that get half written?
You are beating Deepak Chopra in the gibberish stakes by a country mile.
Possibly or you need a wider imagination to realise what these entities might do when born into the world?
My imagination is boundless, but unlike you I realise when it has entered the realm of gibber.
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Re: Engaging with the Terminator AI

Post by aufbahrung » Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:35 am

Hermit wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:11 am
aufbahrung wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:36 am
Hermit wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:42 am
aufbahrung wrote:
Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:27 am
Devil incarnate and God are indistinguishable at that level I guess? We'll know the being by the history books that get half written?
You are beating Deepak Chopra in the gibberish stakes by a country mile.
Possibly or you need a wider imagination to realise what these entities might do when born into the world?
My imagination is boundless, but unlike you I realise when it has entered the realm of gibber.
Unique then? You should write a book. With a index. Showing how its done?
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