What if Vegans are Actually Right?

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It is good for the planet?

Hectic
1
4%
Bacon and Cheese
10
43%
Yes
7
30%
Cheese but not Bacon
2
9%
No
3
13%
 
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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by macdoc » Thu May 02, 2024 6:38 am

One persuades by positing evidenced positions with documentary support, not by supplying unsupported personal opinion however eloquently framed. :coffee:
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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by rasetsu » Thu May 02, 2024 1:32 pm

macdoc wrote:
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One persuades by positing evidenced positions with documentary support, not by supplying unsupported personal opinion however eloquently framed. :coffee:
And?

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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by rasetsu » Thu May 02, 2024 3:40 pm

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.”

― Joseph Goebbels

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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by Strontium Dog » Thu May 02, 2024 8:37 pm

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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu May 02, 2024 9:06 pm

rasetsu wrote:
Wed May 01, 2024 10:45 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
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rasetsu wrote:
Wed May 01, 2024 1:46 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
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I generally avoid talkimg about that in any detail, but broadly I coordinate a number of projects that help high school students across Scotland collaborate with students from developing countries overseas.
I meant more do you use it to persuade and/or argue in real life? How does your real life communication compare?
We develope a broad range of educational resources and activities for students, teachers, and youth workers.
I'm still not being understood. You said you worry less about persuading and winning arguments on the internet than developing your ability to express yourself well. What do you use the ability to express yourself well if it doesn't involve persuading and arguing? What use is eloquence if not put to use to persuade and create change?
I guess it's about trying to be sure of one's own footing, and informed enough to represent viewpoints fairly, concisely, and in an age-appropriate manner. Teachers appreciate facts for example, while children respond to stories they can relate to, and young people seems to like a mix. As I said, I don't like to go into detail about what I do IRL, but arguing with mac and others online has actually helped me figure out my own perspectives and allowed me to find ways to talk about things in more collaborative settings.
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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by macdoc » Fri May 03, 2024 11:06 am

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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:08 am

"World famous" competitive eater is un-American for going vegan.


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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by Svartalf » Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:52 am

well, competitive eating is gross and unhealthy, kudos to him if he also leaves the circuit rather than demanding vegedogs

EDIT could see the video, he just changed sponsor, throw him in the mar a lago croc moat.
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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by JimC » Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:50 am

A revolting pastime...
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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:00 am

Svartalf wrote:
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EDIT could see the video, he just changed sponsor, throw him in the mar a lago croc moat.
I doubt that would be healthy for the crocs though! 🐊
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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by Svartalf » Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:41 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:00 am
Svartalf wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:52 am
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EDIT could see the video, he just changed sponsor, throw him in the mar a lago croc moat.
I doubt that would be healthy for the crocs though! 🐊
C'mon, everybody is entitled to junk food occasionally
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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:44 pm

:D
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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:53 am

Ultra-processed foods need tobacco-style warnings, says scientist
Ultra-processed foods (UPFs) are displacing healthy diets “all over the world” despite growing evidence of the risks they pose and should be sold with tobacco-style warnings, according to the nutritional scientist who first coined the term.

Prof Carlos Monteiro of the University of São Paulo will highlight the increasing danger UPFs present to children and adults at the International Congress on Obesity this week.

“UPFs are increasing their share in and domination of global diets, despite the risk they represent to health in terms of increasing the risk of multiple chronic diseases,” Monteiro told the Guardian ahead of the conference in São Paulo.

“UPFs are displacing healthier, less processed foods all over the world, and also causing a deterioration in diet quality due to their several harmful attributes. Together, these foods are driving the pandemic of obesity and other diet-related chronic diseases, such as diabetes.”

The stark warning comes amid rapidly rising global consumption of UPFs such as cereals, protein bars, fizzy drinks, ready meals and fast food.

In the UK and US, more than half the average diet now consists of ultra-processed food. For some, especially people who are younger, poorer or from disadvantaged areas, a diet comprising as much as 80% UPF is typicaIn February, the world’s largest review of its kind found UPFs were directly linked to 32 harmful effects to health, including a higher risk of heart disease, cancer, type 2 diabetes, adverse mental health and early death...
There's a lot of 'plant-based || meat alternative' UPFs out there too.
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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by macdoc » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:23 am

Such as Brian or are you reverting to unsupported proclamations again
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Re: What if Vegans are Actually Right?

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:31 am

What defines ultra processed food? What's "processed" actually mean?
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