Digital dependence 'eroding human memory'

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Digital dependence 'eroding human memory'

Post by klr » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:16 pm

From the "stating the bleedin' obvious, but it still needs saying" category:
An over-reliance on using computers and search engines is weakening people's memories, according to a study.

It showed many people use computers instead of memorising information.

Many adults who could still recall their phone numbers from childhood could not remember their current work number or numbers of family members.

Maria Wimber from the University of Birmingham said the trend of looking up information "prevents the build-up of long-term memories".

The study, examining the memory habits of 6,000 adults in the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg, found more than a third would turn first to computers to recall information.

The UK had the highest level, with more than half "searching online for the answer first".

Outsourcing memory

But the survey suggests relying on a computer in this way has a long-term impact on the development of memories, because such push-button information can often be immediately forgotten.

"Our brain appears to strengthen a memory each time we recall it, and at the same time forget irrelevant memories that are distracting us," said Dr Wimber.

She says that the process of recalling information is a "very efficient way to create a permanent memory".

"In contrast, passively repeating information, such as repeatedly looking it up on the internet, does not create a solid, lasting memory trace in the same way."

Among adults surveyed in the UK, 45% could recall their home phone number from the age of 10, while 29% could remember their own children's phone numbers and 43% could remember their work number.

The ability to remember a partner's number was lower in the UK than anywhere else in the European survey. There were 51% in the UK who knew their partner's phone number, compared with almost 80% in Italy.

The study from Kaspersky Lab, a cybersecurity firm, says that people have become accustomed to using computer devices as an "extension" of their own brain.

It describes the rise of what it calls "digital amnesia", in which people are ready to forget important information in the belief that it can be immediately retrieved from a digital device.

The study highlights how, as well as storing factual information, there is a trend to keep personal memories in digital form. Photographs of important moments might only exist on a smartphone, with the risk of their loss if the device is lost or stolen.

"There also seems to be a risk that the constant recording of information on digital devices makes us less likely to commit this information to long-term memory, and might even distract us from properly encoding an event as it happens," said Dr Wimber.
http://www.bbc.com/news/education-34454264

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Post by mistermack » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:45 pm

It's not that your memory gets eroded. (although that will happen with time anyway).

It's that it gets overloaded. So you stop trying to remember stuff, because there's too much of it.
So you make a little file, where you can look it all up.

That's what you do, if you have any sense.

And keep it backed up.
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Post by Hermit » Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:33 pm

At least as far as I am concerned, Kaspersky has the memory issue arse about face. My memory may be made of solid stainless steel, but unfortunately its design resembles that of a kitchen strainer. Decades before the internet became available to those of us who are not members of select academic or military circles I found myself looking up the same details of whatever again and again. I finished up surrounding myself with encyclopedias, dictionaries, collections of hand written notes and diaries in ringfolders and whatever other materials I could think of that would compensate for my disability. The internet does not increase my inability to remember stuff. It makes it a bit easier to make up for it.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:00 pm

I... forgot what I was going to say. :dunno:
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Post by Animavore » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:15 pm

I have everyone's phone numbers memorised. You never know when an EMP burst is going to take out all our electronics and then how would we be able to contact each other to make sure everyone is safe if we can't remember each other's number?
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Post by surreptitious57 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:55 pm

You walk to their house and then knock up on their door
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Post by jamest » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:27 pm

There doesn't appear to be any mention of the memory required to enable oneself to use the technology. Isn't it simply a trade off?

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Post by jaydot » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:33 pm

doesn't it rather depend upon what one wants to remember? i want to remember friends' birthdays, but meryl streep's is irrelevant. my friends i will commit to memory, meryl i will search for.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:37 pm

Animavore wrote:I have everyone's phone numbers memorised. You never know when an EMP burst is going to take out all our electronics and then how would we be able to contact each other to make sure everyone is safe if we can't remember each other's number?
I used to remember phone numbers. And addresses. And appointments. I heard something once and it stuck. Until I was about 24 - then I couldn't do it anymore. I guess my brain was full and things started dropping out. Up until then I never had a diary, phone or address book - I just remembered everything. I was fucked for years when it stopped.

But that was long before the Interwebz.
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Post by JimC » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:18 pm

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Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:01 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Animavore wrote:I have everyone's phone numbers memorised. You never know when an EMP burst is going to take out all our electronics and then how would we be able to contact each other to make sure everyone is safe if we can't remember each other's number?
I used to remember phone numbers. And addresses. And appointments. I heard something once and it stuck. Until I was about 24 - then I couldn't do it anymore. I guess my brain was full and things started dropping out. Up until then I never had a diary, phone or address book - I just remembered everything. I was fucked for years when it stopped.

But that was long before the Interwebz.
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Post by mistermack » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:45 pm

That reminds me.. . . .

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Post by Animavore » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:19 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Animavore wrote:I have everyone's phone numbers memorised. You never know when an EMP burst is going to take out all our electronics and then how would we be able to contact each other to make sure everyone is safe if we can't remember each other's number?
I used to remember phone numbers. And addresses. And appointments. I heard something once and it stuck. Until I was about 24 - then I couldn't do it anymore. I guess my brain was full and things started dropping out. Up until then I never had a diary, phone or address book - I just remembered everything. I was fucked for years when it stopped.

But that was long before the Interwebz.
The idea of talking about a brain as something that can be 'full', as if ideas and concepts have calories, is weird to me. :(
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:27 pm

Animavore wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Animavore wrote:I have everyone's phone numbers memorised. You never know when an EMP burst is going to take out all our electronics and then how would we be able to contact each other to make sure everyone is safe if we can't remember each other's number?
I used to remember phone numbers. And addresses. And appointments. I heard something once and it stuck. Until I was about 24 - then I couldn't do it anymore. I guess my brain was full and things started dropping out. Up until then I never had a diary, phone or address book - I just remembered everything. I was fucked for years when it stopped.

But that was long before the Interwebz.
The idea of talking about a brain as something that can be 'full', as if ideas and concepts have calories, is weird to me. :(
It's more a question of the number of available synaptic connections being finite. I had an eidetic memory for certain classes of facts - mainly abstract and numeric - between my early teens and mid-twenties. These days I am lucky if I know what day it is today, let alone what day I need to sign on!
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Post by JimC » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:35 pm

Gin is a well-known cure for memory problems. Fact!
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