Scientists discover water doesn't flow upwards.

[rainbow]

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/ ... n-25539364

The final report from a landmark federal study on hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, found no evidence that chemicals or brine water from the gas drilling process moved upward to contaminate drinking water at a site in western Pennsylvania.

[Svartalf]

Lol, like THAT was the problem with fracking...

[mistermack]

Lol, like THAT was the problem with fracking...

Fracking seems to be causing very little in the way of problems.
If you contrast the amount of fracking to ACTUAL problems, it's tiny. And the US is certainly benefiting from it. In fact, we in England are already benefiting from fracking. It's kept world prices down.

[Svartalf]

wait till the drinking water goes DOWN to mix with the noxious chemicals...

[mistermack]

wait till the drinking water goes DOWN to mix with the noxious chemicals...

Might as well leave it there. Don't forget, all of those chemicals came out of the ground to start with.
They've only been moved from A to B.

[Svartalf]

But the breaks due to fracking now allow mixings that didn't happen before, bad for drinking water to stay fit for such use.

[mistermack]

But the breaks due to fracking now allow mixings that didn't happen before, bad for drinking water to stay fit for such use.

What you are doing, is claiming that there are problems, without giving examples.
It doesn't inspire confidence in your message. Where are the real-life problems?
Fracking isn't normally carried out where it can contaminate drinking water. Here in Britain, most of our drinking water is taken from shallow or surface sources. There are very few places where fracking could possibly pollute it. And where it could, they won't be fracking.

In parts of the world where the water is drawn from deep groundwater sources, they will have to be careful.

So long as you have severe penalties in place for polluting, and arrangements in place to make sure that people can't dodge penalties by going bust, then people WILL be careful.

[Svartalf]

I did not invent such claims, you just wait till the water table gets fouled or disappears in fracked areas... if after 10 years of fracking no such problems manifest, I'll admit I listened to the wrong people.

[piscator]

But the breaks due to fracking now allow mixings that didn't happen before, bad for drinking water to stay fit for such use.

What you are doing, is claiming that there are problems, without giving examples.

University of Texas researchers watched levels of arsenic, barium, strontium, and selenium in groundwater rise in response to hydraulic and explosive fracking in the Barnett Shale, in some cases, over 3km from active wells. Now, whether that's the result of fracking fluids or the mobilization of natural constituents is another question, but it doesn't take much common sense to understand that shock waves often propagate and fracture rock well above the pay zone. Moreover, when you fracture rock above a high pressure formation, you run the risk of liberating that pressure and whatever it can carry with it upward through your new perforations and thence continuing along the paths of least resistance. Where it stops, nobody knows.

So long as you have severe penalties in place for polluting, and arrangements in place to make sure that people can't dodge penalties by going bust, then people WILL be careful.

You make these testimonies of faith, but don't show any examples from reality. What the hell?


Fact: Most used drillstem is radioactive for quite a long time. It's safe to handle, but you don't want to cut or weld it. Steel recyclers (the New American Steel Industry) can't legally put it in their electric furnaces, as it liberates horrific amounts of radon.

[mistermack]

I did not invent such claims, you just wait till the water table gets fouled or disappears in fracked areas... if after 10 years of fracking no such problems manifest, I'll admit I listened to the wrong people.

Fuck, if they can frack an area for ten years, it will have been worth it anyway. Ten years fracking must add up to a heck of a lot of gas.