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Post by cronus » Thu May 15, 2014 5:43 am

Like flying it begins with a dream, then something happens to render the dream real. :dunno:

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Post by cronus » Thu May 15, 2014 7:23 am

My idea is if you create a social dynamic that is complex and diverse with bits of old and new culture you are more likely to entice time travellers who've no doubt been on the circuit and consider a mish-mash of cultures in various states of evolution standard. Much like London today. Less like MIT in 2005.

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Post by JimC » Thu May 15, 2014 9:05 am

I have traveled from 1953 to the present...
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Post by cronus » Thu May 15, 2014 9:07 am

JimC wrote:I have traveled from 1953 to the present...

...all in Australia, you need a change. :tup:
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Post by cronus » Thu May 15, 2014 9:46 am

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Post by mistermack » Thu May 15, 2014 4:39 pm

Time travel is just a fairy story. It simply can't happen. If a branch of physics says that it's theoretically possible, they should be taking another look.

To travel from one point to another, both points need to exist. I don't know of any part of physics that says that the past exists. Or the future.

I can agree that you might be able to take a single particle, and change it's state to one that it was in in the past. Maybe you could claim that you have turned back time, for that particle. And similarly into it's future.

But that's not turning back time, in the sense that we think of it. To do that, you would need to change the state of every particle in the universe, back to how it was at a previous instant. Or run the clock forward, for every particle.

That ain't ever going to happen. So it makes time travel impossible.
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Post by cronus » Thu May 15, 2014 4:54 pm

mistermack wrote:Time travel is just a fairy story. It simply can't happen. If a branch of physics says that it's theoretically possible, they should be taking another look.

To travel from one point to another, both points need to exist. I don't know of any part of physics that says that the past exists. Or the future.

I can agree that you might be able to take a single particle, and change it's state to one that it was in in the past. Maybe you could claim that you have turned back time, for that particle. And similarly into it's future.

But that's not turning back time, in the sense that we think of it. To do that, you would need to change the state of every particle in the universe, back to how it was at a previous instant. Or run the clock forward, for every particle.

That ain't ever going to happen. So it makes time travel impossible.
You don't need to travel back in time as a object to do it, ideas are enough. You simply need a social consensus that you've travelled back in time. What is time anyway? The future is the past if everyone is riding around on horses tomorrow.
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Post by JimC » Thu May 15, 2014 10:11 pm

I intend to travel to the future.
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Re: Hints at Time Travel In Popular Culture?

Post by mistermack » Fri May 16, 2014 9:32 am

Scumple wrote: You don't need to travel back in time as a object to do it, ideas are enough. You simply need a social consensus that you've travelled back in time. What is time anyway? The future is the past if everyone is riding around on horses tomorrow.
Not really. Every horse is unique, and has never existed before. Same as every ant, and every termite.
So unless it's the same people, riding the same horses, stepping on the same ants, then you are in the future, not the past.

The future is almost infinite in it's variable possibilities. The past is unique.

I can only think of one way that time travel could be possible, and that would be if every mini micro second existed statically in it's own universe, like a frame from a movie film.
It would still be difficult to travel in time.
Imagine that they cut me out of one frame, and pasted me in a frame in 1949, a year before I was born.
I would only exist in 1949 for a micro instant, unless they did the same for the next frame, and the next, and the next, etc etc, making tiny changes to each one, like a cartoon.

So I wouldn't be able to kill my own mother, in the past, as is often speculated.
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Re: Hints at Time Travel In Popular Culture?

Post by JimC » Fri May 16, 2014 9:39 am

mistermack wrote:
Scumple wrote: You don't need to travel back in time as a object to do it, ideas are enough. You simply need a social consensus that you've travelled back in time. What is time anyway? The future is the past if everyone is riding around on horses tomorrow.
Not really. Every horse is unique, and has never existed before. Same as every ant, and every termite.
So unless it's the same people, riding the same horses, stepping on the same ants, then you are in the future, not the past.

The future is almost infinite in it's variable possibilities. The past is unique.

I can only think of one way that time travel could be possible, and that would be if every mini micro second existed statically in it's own universe, like a frame from a movie film.
It would still be difficult to travel in time.
Imagine that they cut me out of one frame, and pasted me in a frame in 1949, a year before I was born.
I would only exist in 1949 for a micro instant, unless they did the same for the next frame, and the next, and the next, etc etc, making tiny changes to each one, like a cartoon.

So I wouldn't be able to kill my own mother, in the past, as is often speculated.
1950, eh?

You're a fucking older cunt than me! :shock:

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Re: Hints at Time Travel In Popular Culture?

Post by cronus » Fri May 16, 2014 9:43 am

They should separate time travel into soft and hard forms. Hard time travel in which stuff goes backwards in time is way beyond our technological capabilities. On the otherhand more's, and conventions of dress, human knowledge etc....can already be brought backwards and that is soft time travel. If people start using horses more than cars, and begin to dress in historic/nostalgic gear to forget the oil running out....they are involved in soft time travel.
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Re: Hints at Time Travel In Popular Culture?

Post by mistermack » Fri May 16, 2014 10:03 am

JimC wrote: 1950, eh?

You're a fucking older cunt than me! :shock:

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Yeh, but I've MADE it to age 63. You just have to hope. :biggrin:
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