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Oh shit - methane!

Post by Rum » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:25 pm

The sea is leaking methane! We are doomed...this from the BBC at:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8205864.stm

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:35 pm

Rumertron wrote:The sea is leaking methane! We are doomed...this from the BBC at:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8205864.stm
Not to worry, it will make the atmosphere explosive and burn off quite rapidly.

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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:19 pm

Yep, well done guys, we fucked this planet up good-and-proper! I feel sorry for the poor saps who have to live on it now! :lol:



Oh, wait... :shock:




...SHIT! :doh: :banghead:
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Post by cowiz » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:57 pm

Pfft, there's more danger from the methane under my quilt.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:04 am

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:Yep, well done guys, we fucked this planet up good-and-proper! I feel sorry for the poor saps who have to live on it now! :lol:



Oh, wait... :shock:




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Post by Rum » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:55 am

Vroomfondel wrote:Pfft, there's more danger from the methane under my quilt.
No - please - not the Dutch oven thing again.. :?

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Post by Guy_Montag » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:14 pm

Rumertron wrote:The sea is leaking methane! We are doomed...this from the BBC at:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8205864.stm
Hey!! I was on that cruise!

In the discussions I listened in on, I think the important bit was: Not enough long term data

We don't know how long this has been going on for, & we don't know what the rate of change is.

Though since I only provided equipment, the clever people may have found some way of working out how things have changed. They are quite clever.

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Post by Rum » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:31 pm

Guy_Montag wrote:
Rumertron wrote: Though since I only provided equipment, the clever people may have found some way of working out how things have changed. They are quite clever.
Quite clever people have quite a lost to answer for if you ask me.. :?

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Post by ScholasticSpastic » Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:40 pm

In our oxidizing atmoshpere, methane is gradually converted to CO2- even without the direct intervention of living systems. Methane, itself, is thus probably an overestimated problem. However, since we're presently producing CO2 faster than biological and abiotic systems can sequester it as organic molecules or carbonate salts, the added contribution to CO2 from oceanic seapage could still be a problem. I have always been concerned about ocean acidification more than climate change from CO2- especially as there is more photosynthesis taking place at sea than on land and the acidification of our oceans could interfere with phytoplankton populations reliant upon pH to secrete carbonate skeletons.

Ocean acidification could increase the effects of our carbon dioxide pollution while simultaneously reducing the ocean's ability to persist as a primary food resource for much of the Earth's population. So, regardless of the "controversy" surrounding climate change, we're still fucked if we keep on producing carbon dioxide at a rate which exceeds natural sequestration. Unfortunately, ocean acidification, as it's a less direct though more thorough mechanism for fucking ourselves, is less able to capture public imagination as readily as the direct effects attributed to greenhouse gases. So we're left peddling a more "controversial" issue while ignoring a much greater threat. :nono:
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Post by Rum » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:01 pm

ScholasticSpastic wrote:In our oxidizing atmoshpere, methane is gradually converted to CO2- even without the direct intervention of living systems. Methane, itself, is thus probably an overestimated problem. However, since we're presently producing CO2 faster than biological and abiotic systems can sequester it as organic molecules or carbonate salts, the added contribution to CO2 from oceanic seapage could still be a problem. I have always been concerned about ocean acidification more than climate change from CO2- especially as there is more photosynthesis taking place at sea than on land and the acidification of our oceans could interfere with phytoplankton populations reliant upon pH to secrete carbonate skeletons.

Ocean acidification could increase the effects of our carbon dioxide pollution while simultaneously reducing the ocean's ability to persist as a primary food resource for much of the Earth's population. So, regardless of the "controversy" surrounding climate change, we're still fucked if we keep on producing carbon dioxide at a rate which exceeds natural sequestration. Unfortunately, ocean acidification, as it's a less direct though more thorough mechanism for fucking ourselves, is less able to capture public imagination as readily as the direct effects attributed to greenhouse gases. So we're left peddling a more "controversial" issue while ignoring a much greater threat. :nono:
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Post by ScholasticSpastic » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:23 pm

Rumertron wrote: Jesus Christ (as it were). Someone who knows what they are talking about..and can scare me even more than I already am. (see also The Elephant in the Room)
Yeah, I used to want to be a marine biologist. Then I decided to focus on systems which were more likely to persist through my career after graduating. :(
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