Embryology and Quran

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Embryology and Quran

Post by murshid » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:16 pm

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I just got this in an email:
Prof. Dr. Keith Moore had earlier authored of the book, ‘The Developing Human’. After acquiring new knowledge from the Qur’aan, he wrote, in 1982, the 3rd edition of the same book, ‘The Developing Human’. Dr. Keith Moore answered about eighty questions dealing with embryological data mentioned in the Qur’aan and Hadith. Noting that the information contained in the Qur’aan and Hadith was in full agreement with the latest discoveries in the field of embryology, Prof. Moore said, "If I was asked these questions thirty years ago, I would not have been able to answer half of them for lack of scientific information" Please visit his videos:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx434UE3SYw
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKGurZJO3hM&NR=1

Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson, Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, at the Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, U.S.A., proclaims: "...these Hadiths, sayings of Muhammad peace be upon him could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available at the time of the writer (7 th century). It follows that not only is there no conflict between genetics and religion (Islam) but in fact religion (Islam) may guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches… there exist statements in the Qur’aan shown centuries later to be valid which support knowledge in the Qur’aan having been derived from God." Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMLdm50k2ck
All that sounds like baloney to me; but I'd like to know the experts' opinion. Did Dr. Moore really include all those in the 3rd edition of the book? And what do you people have to say about his claims about the Quran as far as embryology is concerned?

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Re: Embryology and Quran

Post by Trolldor » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:56 pm

It's been debunked a number of times.

The main problem is that the language is amibguous and doesn't mean anything specific enough to pinpoint. Saying the Quran helped him with embryology is delusion at best.
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Re: Embryology and Quran

Post by murshid » Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:00 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:It's been debunked a number of times.
Can you provide any links?

The Mad Hatter wrote: The main problem is that the language is amibguous and doesn't mean anything specific enough to pinpoint. Saying the Quran helped him with embryology is delusion at best.
The languages of scriptures are always ambiguous. :hehe:

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Re: Embryology and Quran

Post by Dory » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:42 pm

This is a nice smooth video-form summary:



When I at first heard about this, I though it would be some sort of over-interpretation of the words in the Koran that could be analogized to fancy embryological info like cleavage furrows, cytoplasmic localization, cell differentiation, morphogenesis...etc etc etc. It was even more retarded than I thught.

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Re: Embryology and Quran

Post by Rum » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:03 pm

Dory wrote: It was even more retarded than I thught.
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Sorry Dory - nothing personal but I lulled!

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Re: Embryology and Quran

Post by mistermack » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:55 pm

Truly, it's miraculous what allah decided to keep secret from mohammed. He didn't tell him about cells or nuclii, or chromosomes,he didn't mention that sperms were little fishy things with tails, he didn't even mention dna, or how it splits and recombines with some from each parent. Instead, he just passed on the stuff that people of the time already knew from the daily slaughter of animals. Truly he moves in mysterious ways.
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Re: Embryology and Quran

Post by murshid » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:43 pm

Dory wrote:This is a nice smooth video-form summary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpXBaWL9FDg
Thanks for the YouTube link, Dory.
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Re: Embryology and Quran

Post by mistermack » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:08 am

murshid wrote: The languages of scriptures are always ambiguous. :hehe:
Yes, that is very true. So is the language of habitual liars. What they have in common is (apart from lies) that they don't want to be pinned down to a fact that can be disproved. That's why jesus never said ONE WORD that couldn't have been said by a mortal at the time, even though he created the entire universe. (apparently). How he must have chuckled to himself when people said that the sun went round the earth.
He had all the proof at his fingertips, so the obvious thing to do was to keep it to himself, talk bollocks and riddles, and invite everyone to believe without evidence.
It stands to reason, what else was the creator of the universe to do?
The same applies to allah. What would the creator of the universe have to say in a chat to his chosen go-between?
Chop off your foreskins and don't eat pork of course.
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Re: Embryology and Quran

Post by Dory » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:22 pm

murshid wrote:
Dory wrote:This is a nice smooth video-form summary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpXBaWL9FDg
Thanks for the YouTube link, Dory.
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