Evolving the wheel

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Evolving the wheel

Post by Rum » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:21 pm

As I was walking the dogs this evening I found myself marvelling at their leg action and at how evolution had developed locomotion in this form. It got me wondering though.

Do you think that life (on earth) would be able to evolve the wheel as a form of locomotion?

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Re: Evolving the wheel

Post by cowiz » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:23 pm

Bacterial flagellum
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Re: Evolving the wheel

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:26 pm

Tumbleweed.

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Post by Bella Fortuna » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:27 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Tumbleweed.
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Re: Evolving the wheel

Post by cowiz » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:28 pm

The wheelie bin

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Re: Evolving the wheel

Post by Rum » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:28 pm

pawiz wrote:Bacterial flagellum
I thought it was a polite enough opener... :?

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Re: Evolving the wheel

Post by devogue » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:29 pm

Legs seem pretty efficient.

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Re: Evolving the wheel

Post by Rum » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:30 pm

I'm going to have to resort to Rat Skep I think. :sighsm:

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Re: Evolving the wheel

Post by AshtonBlack » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:30 pm

Interesting question.
I can't think of a circumstance where it could evolve through natural selection, since it hasn't already.

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Re: Evolving the wheel

Post by cowiz » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:31 pm

Rum wrote:I'm going to have to resort to Rat Skep I think. :sighsm:
The flagellum is driven by a wheel
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Post by cowiz » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:36 pm

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Re: Evolving the wheel

Post by RuleBritannia » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:37 pm

Only if having a wheel, rather than limbs, has a survival advantage.
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Re: Evolving the wheel

Post by cowiz » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:38 pm

AshtonBlack wrote:Interesting question.
I can't think of a circumstance where it could evolve through natural selection, since it hasn't already.
Bollocks. What about Chorlton & The Wheelies?

Here's a clip from a documentary about them:

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Re: Evolving the wheel

Post by Thinking Aloud » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:40 pm

pawiz wrote:
AshtonBlack wrote:Interesting question.
I can't think of a circumstance where it could evolve through natural selection, since it hasn't already.
Bollocks. What about Chorlton & The Wheelies?

Here's a clip from a documentary about them:
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Re: Evolving the wheel

Post by owtth » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:41 pm

Phillip Pullman came up with a creature that evolved to use a seed as a wheel.

From the Wikipedia page
The Mulefa evolved in a radically different fashion from humans. These elephant-like creatures possess an anatomy based on a diamond-framed skeleton lacking a spine, have four legs, short horns, and a prehensile trunk that functionally takes the place of hands. Signing with the trunk is an integral part of Mulefa language. They form close-knit communities, closer than most human groups met in the novel. One of the reasons for the closeness of their communities is that, lacking two hands, it usually requires two or more Mulefa trunks working together to accomplish complex tasks like tying knots.

A notable feature of the Mulefa is their use of large, disc-shaped seed pods from their world's enormous "seed-pod trees" in locomotion; the pods fit neatly onto a spur on their front and rear legs when each zalif is grown enough to use it. They propel themselves using their two side legs, like a cyclist without pedals. Ancient lava flows solidified into smooth rivers of rock running across the land serve as roads to ease transport. The Mulefa have a symbiotic relationship with the seedpod trees - their use of the pods on the "roads" allows the extremely hard exterior to crack and the seeds to emerge. These are germinated by the Mulefa, allowing the wheel-pod trees to survive. As the book notes, it is the three combined elements of seed-pod, spur, and rock formation which leads to the current Mulefa existence.
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