Vaginal gel cuts HIV-infections by half

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Post by RuleBritannia » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:22 pm

A microbicidal vaginal gel has significantly cut the rate of women contracting HIV from infected partners in an experiment in South Africa.

The gel, containing the Aids drug tenofovir, cut infection rates by 50% after one year of use, and by 39% after two and a half years, researchers said.

If the results are confirmed it would be the first time that a microbicidal gel has been shown to be effective.

Such a gel could be a defence for women whose partners refuse to wear condoms.

New ways of curbing the spread of HIV are badly needed, particularly in sub-Saharan Africa, where nearly 60% of those infected with the virus are women.

Many women are often forced to take part in unsafe sex, and are biologically more vulnerable to HIV infection than men, making a gel they apply an attractive option.

Welcoming the results, UN agencies said they would convene an expert consultation in South Africa next month to discuss the next steps with the product.
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The results of the three-year study, which was completed by the Centre for the Aids Programme of Research in South Africa (Caprisa), are being presented at an international aids conference in Vienna and were published on Monday by the US magazine Science.

The gel was found to be both safe and acceptable when used once in the 12 hours before sex and once in the 12 hours after sex by women aged 18 to 40 years.

"It's the first time we've ever seen any microbicide give a positive result that you could say was statistically significant," said Dr Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

The researchers say women who used the gel also showed a significant reduction in genital herpes, a common sexually transmitted infection, which itself increases the risk of HIV infection.

The UN's HIV/Aids agency noted that nearly 20 years of research had gone into microbicides that can be controlled by a woman, independent of her partner.

"We are giving hope to women," said Mr Michel Sidibe, executive director of UNAids.

"For the first time we have seen results for a woman-initiated and controlled HIV prevention option."

A microbicide, he said, would be a "powerful option for the prevention revolution and help us break the trajectory of the Aids epidemic".

Dr Margaret Chan, director-general of the World Health Organization, welcomed Caprisa's findings.

"We look forward in seeing these results confirmed," she said.

"Once they have been shown to be safe and effective, WHO will work with countries and partners to accelerate access to these products."
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Re: Vaginal gel cuts HIV-infections by half

Post by cowiz » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:24 pm

Mmmm "vagina"
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Post by mistermack » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:10 am

Why do they always big these things up so much? Any fool can see the problem with this gel. It's the 12 hours before that spoils it. Who going to know 12 hours in advance that they need to use a costly gel?
And the other problem is that it's only 50% effective, against nearly 100 % for condoms. But if this becomes publicised, people who WERE using condoms are going to switch, so it could actually cause an INCREASE in infections.
The real answer is condoms and education, unless they can improve on this. And to lay off the bum sex.
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Post by Trolldor » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:26 am

Any idiot will know that any potential protection is better than none, and that this is a humongous deal.

You don't happen to be just any idiot though.
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Post by chaggle » Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:06 am

mistermack wrote:Why do they always big these things up so much? Any fool can see the problem with this gel. It's the 12 hours before that spoils it. Who going to know 12 hours in advance that they need to use a costly gel?
And the other problem is that it's only 50% effective, against nearly 100 % for condoms. But if this becomes publicised, people who WERE using condoms are going to switch, so it could actually cause an INCREASE in infections.
The real answer is condoms and education, unless they can improve on this. And to lay off the bum sex.
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It doesn't say that!!! It says
once in the 12 hours before sex and once in the 12 hours after sex
Big difference. You can whack some up there just before doing it and have a bit more fun sloshing some more up soon after.

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Post by mistermack » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:23 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:Any idiot will know that any potential protection is better than none, and that this is a humongous deal.

You don't happen to be just any idiot though.
Yeh, but any idiot can see that condoms are nearly 100% safe, and this is only 40% safe long term. So anyone who switches from condoms to using this is taking a huge chance. But maybe some special idiots can't understand that.

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It doesn't say that!!! It says
once in the 12 hours before sex and once in the 12 hours after sex
Big difference. You can whack some up there just before doing it and have a bit more fun sloshing some more up soon after.
Yes, I wondered about that, they aren't very clear how it's supposed to be used. If it's ok to use it five minutes before sex, what are they talking about 12 hours for? Who's going to use it IN CASE they had sex in the next 12 hours, when they can just pop it in minutes before? It doesn't make a lot of sense, so I assumed the 12 hour thing was for a good reason.
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Post by Trolldor » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:21 am

1 - Anyone who uses a condom is not going to switch to a gel, Mackintosh, because they'll already know this. It's one of the wonderful things about medicine, information is available.
2 - If knew anything, you'd realise that places like Africa would benefit more from the introduction of this Gel as common use even if everyone who did use condoms switched out.
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Post by Robert_S » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:13 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:1 - Anyone who uses a condom is not going to switch to a gel, Mackintosh, because they'll already know this. It's one of the wonderful things about medicine, information is available.
2 - If knew anything, you'd realise that places like Africa would benefit more from the introduction of this Gel as common use even if everyone who did use condoms switched out.
True, the infection by rape rate in some parts of Africa is astronomical. At least this would give the woman a greater chance at survival.
I'm thinking condom plus gel would be great ideal.


I just wonder how in the world they did this study.
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Post by rachelbean » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:18 am

Yes, the great part about the gel is for women who are in marriages or relationships where they are not "allowed" to use any kind of protection, because of the 12 hour period it means they could use it without the men knowing and at least provide some kind of chance for themselves. It's a huge step.
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Post by Robert_S » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:27 am

rachelbean wrote:Yes, the great part about the gel is for women who are in marriages or relationships where they are not "allowed" to use any kind of protection, because of the 12 hour period it means they could use it without the men knowing and at least provide some kind of chance for themselves. It's a huge step.
Just hearing about that sort of pisses me off.
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Post by HomerJay » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:30 am

i think it's just swarfega in different packaging.

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Post by RuleBritannia » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:56 pm

A lot of Africans don't wear condoms because the Pope tell 'em it's evil, this gel's better than nothing.
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Post by Ex~ » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:08 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:A lot of Africans don't wear condoms because the Pope tell 'em it's evil, this gel's better than nothing.
Also because condoms suck.

Seriously, bareback sex is vastly superior to sex with a condom. Get in a committed relationship, get tested, and get her on the pill. It's so worth it.

Having sex with a condom is like someone who wears glasses going to the theatre without them.

That being said, sex with a condom is vastly superior to AIDS. I'd just think it's worth pointing out that I am no fan of the condom for anything but its prophylactic properties, and I'm not surprised Africans hate it either. People always act like Africans are barbarians or stupid or uneducated or religious fanatics everytime they don't use a condom: well maybe they just don't fucking like them.

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Post by Trolldor » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:12 pm

lol. You fail at life.
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Post by RuleBritannia » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:17 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:lol. You fail at life.
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