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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:25 am

Fossil fuels are far more heavily subsidised than renewables.

And they have FAR greater externalities.
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Post by mistermack » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:29 am

Seth wrote: You probably don't live anywhere near one. People who do have all sorts of health problems associated with the low-frequency "whoosh" they make and they utterly despise them.
:funny: :funny:
That says it all. Maybe they deserve compensation for their headaches and depression brought on by them?
Do they have impotence and suicidal thoughts that can only be fixed by a big payout? :hehe:
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:38 am

No peer reviewed study has confirmed any negative health effects from wind turbines. It's just yet another anti-renewable campaign by the cashed up and subsidised fossil fuels industry.
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rEvolutionist wrote:Fossil fuels are far more heavily subsidised than renewables.

And they have FAR greater externalities.
Ass-ertion.
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rEvolutionist wrote:No peer reviewed study has confirmed any negative health effects from wind turbines. It's just yet another anti-renewable campaign by the cashed up and subsidised fossil fuels industry.
Go live under one for a year and get back to us.
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99% of people do and have no problems.
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rEvolutionist wrote:99% of people do and have no problems.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:21 am

Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Fossil fuels are far more heavily subsidised than renewables.

And they have FAR greater externalities.
Ass-ertion.
Sorry, champ, it's a fact. Inconvenient for your conspiracy theories, sure.
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Post by Seth » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:23 am

rEvolutionist wrote:99% of people do and have no problems.
Cary and his wife, Karen, started to suffer symptoms of ear pressure, severe headaches, anxiety, irritability, sleep disturbance, memory loss, fatigue, and depression immediately after the turbines began operating. Source
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Wind turbines health concerns had not really entered my mind until the first weekend in March 2011. From that point on I became increasingly impressed at something that seemed to be under almost a suppression order - significant health problems associated with wind turbines.

I was in the Gold Coast of Australia at a conference. The hotel offered the usual option of having a daily paper with a range to choose from. I chose the Australian.... Source
Besides which, they are fucking ugly and destroy the aesthetic beauty of any place they are installed.

Lots more at "health effects of living near windmill"
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:28 am

99% of people suffer no effects. The 1% are probably a combo of NIMBY's, denialists, and hypochondriacs.
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Re: Global Climate Change Science News

Post by Hermit » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:14 am

There are nearly 250,000 wind turbines across sites all over the world – many of
them close to people’s houses.

Reviews conducted by leading health and research organisations from all over the
world, including Health Canada, the Australian Medical Association and Australia’s
National Health and Medical Research Council, have found no direct link between
wind farms and health effects.

Opponents of wind farms have claimed that ‘infrasound’, or sound that is too
low-frequency for humans to hear, can cause negative health effects. However,
there have been multiple scientific, thorough, peer-reviewed studies on wind farm
noise that have found that infrasound from wind farms is not a problem.
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Re: Global Climate Change Science News

Post by mistermack » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:46 pm

There are always going to be the loonies who swear that they have got all sorts, since living near one. But people who live right on top of much more noise, and work in an environment with much more noise, don't show the same symptoms.
Otherwise, you'd never get anyone to drive a truck, or work on trains, etc etc.

It's the same bunch who swear by homeopathy and herbal cures.
They are just highly suggestible.

I've been around a lot of turbines. You can hardly hear one, if you are forty or fifty metres away. And they rarely place them that close to houses.

I wonder if millers suffered all this crap in the old days, when they were grinding flour? :biggrin:
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Re: Global Climate Change Science News

Post by Hermit » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:12 pm

Yabbut propellers with 11 metre blades make a special infrasound* no other device can make. ;)


*Sound that is too low-frequency for humans to hear. The infrasound of wind powered electricity is nothing like any ordinary infrasound. Trust me on this. There are a number of reports by several NIMBY types and reactionary poltroons to the effect that they suffer terribly from it, so it must be true.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:15 pm

I think we need to let Seth's social Darwinism go to work here and weed this clearly physiologically weak 1% out of the gene pool. You'd agree, no doubt, Seth, given you are a strong advocate of Social Darwinism, yes? Adapt or die, I say.. :tea:
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Re: Global Climate Change Science News

Post by Rum » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:20 pm

It'll come to that soon enough.

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