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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:00 pm

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No, I just want some scientists to be free to be non-communist.

As it is, even those that may be non-communist, have to write the pledge in their funding applications.
What a useful way to politicize mulish ignorance. Happily insulated from nearly all scientific knowledge, and secure in your righteousness.

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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Cunt » Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:08 pm

Not at all.

Just taking in the fact that all of them can be forced to make a diversity statement. So either they ALL agree, or don't dare to disagree publicly.

Makes them sound trustworthy.
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Re: Science news of the day thread.

Post by Svartalf » Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:49 pm

macdoc wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:27 am
Some actual science instead of dated right wing drivel
SCIENCE
OCT 18, 2023 8:00 AM
Chum Salmon Are Spawning in the Arctic. It’s an Ominous Sign
The fish may be a harbinger of dramatic warming in the north—and rapidly transforming ecosystems.
https://www.wired.com/story/chum-salmon ... popular4-1
They traditionally spawn in pretty cold places like the Yukon river, is that significant?
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:45 am

Cunt wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:08 pm
Not at all.

Just taking in the fact that all of them can be forced to make a diversity statement. So either they ALL agree, or don't dare to disagree publicly.

Makes them sound trustworthy.
So all scientific research done in a university setting can be dismissed as tainted. Well done.

I suppose the willingness of climate change deniers to take money from the fossil fuel industry makes them far more trustworthy.

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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Animavore » Fri Oct 20, 2023 5:55 am

What about science privately funded by the fossil industry?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... years-ago/
Exxon Knew about Climate Change almost 40 years ago
A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote misinformation
I guess the science here too is tainted while the misinformation is just capitalistic goodness. A kind of meta-truth.
Exxon was aware of climate change, as early as 1977, 11 years before it became a public issue, according to a recent investigation from InsideClimate News. This knowledge did not prevent the company (now ExxonMobil and the world’s largest oil and gas company) from spending decades refusing to publicly acknowledge climate change and even promoting climate misinformation—an approach many have likened to the lies spread by the tobacco industry regarding the health risks of smoking. Both industries were conscious that their products wouldn’t stay profitable once the world understood the risks, so much so that they used the same consultants to develop strategies on how to communicate with the public.
Remember those nasty cancer scientists told us smoking causes cancer? A liberal university lie so pervasive almost everyone now believes it.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:05 am

—meh, it’s fine to think the worst of all scientists. Whatever their motivations and personalities their work is either good, or it isn’t.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:47 am

Cunt wrote:Not at all.

Just taking in the fact that all of them can be forced to make a diversity statement. So either they ALL agree, or don't dare to disagree publicly.

Makes them sound trustworthy.
All of them? Evidence required.
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Cunt » Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:34 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
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—meh, it’s fine to think the worst of all scientists. Whatever their motivations and personalities their work is either good, or it isn’t.
Yes, and none gets done for free.

Didn't a lot of scientists say smoking didn't cause cancer?

How about that thalidomyde science?

Or Pfizer getting billions in profit off the last couple years (how are those corporate scientists doing now? Pfizer must have done well, with science like that running through it)

I hear they are down nearly 30% this year. Thats gotta be conspiracy theory though...
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by rasetsu » Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:08 pm

Cunt wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:34 pm
Sean Hayden wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:05 am
—meh, it’s fine to think the worst of all scientists. Whatever their motivations and personalities their work is either good, or it isn’t.
Yes, and none gets done for free.

Didn't a lot of scientists say smoking didn't cause cancer?

How about that thalidomyde science?

Or Pfizer getting billions in profit off the last couple years (how are those corporate scientists doing now? Pfizer must have done well, with science like that running through it)

I hear they are down nearly 30% this year. Thats gotta be conspiracy theory though...
It all just mushes together into one undifferentiated slurry in your brain, doesn't it?

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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Cunt » Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:31 pm

rasetsu wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:08 pm

It all just mushes together into one undifferentiated slurry in your brain, doesn't it?
How complimentary of you to say.

Here's a conspiracy theory for you:

A company that paid the largest criminal penalty in human history is prominent and still operating.

If they paid for a bunch of marketing, would you trust it?

I don't expect you to take this seriously, but anyone who knows, knows how much to trust their marketing efforts.
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by rasetsu » Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:43 pm

Cunt wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:31 pm
rasetsu wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:08 pm

It all just mushes together into one undifferentiated slurry in your brain, doesn't it?
How complimentary of you to say.

Here's a conspiracy theory for you:

A company that paid the largest criminal penalty in human history is prominent and still operating.

If they paid for a bunch of marketing, would you trust it?

I don't expect you to take this seriously, but anyone who knows, knows how much to trust their marketing efforts.
I rest my case.

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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Cunt » Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:22 pm

Of course.

Examining facts would be effortful. Plus you might lose faith in the giant drug company that repeatedly gets caught doing crime.
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:27 pm


Cunt wrote: Examining facts would be effortful.
Says the guy who won't look into the science of global warming.

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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Animavore » Fri Oct 20, 2023 5:52 pm

A conspiracy so grand even the wildlife and plant life moving away from the equator and up mountains are in on it.
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Cunt » Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:59 pm

Animavore wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 5:52 pm
A conspiracy so grand even the wildlife and plant life moving away from the equator and up mountains are in on it.
Sorry, I've lost track...are you bemoaning climate change? If so, what do you want instead?
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