What Nobel winner Tim Hunt's sexist outburst actually says

[Forty Two]

WTF are you smoking?? You said you never said women cry more in dangerous situations, and then when I point out you actually do seem to be saying that, you agree. So which is it?

I said I didn't know.

I speculated that based on the information in the links provided, it may be a plausible hypothesis. SPECULATED.

I didn't "imply" anything. Or "seem" to be saying anything.

I outright, openly, explicitly speculated. I don't know, though, because in order for someone to know if something he or she is speculating about is true or probably true, one would have to have some evidence on point. So, if the point is "whether women cry more often than men specifically in dangerous situations, " I don't know.

[pErvinalia]

Yeah but the point is, you think it is possible. Which just fits in nicely with your biases. Why the fuck would you think women would be less able to keep it together in a dangerous situation?

[Forty Two]

Yeah but the point is, you think it is possible. Which just fits in nicely with your biases. Why the fuck would you think women would be less able to keep it together in a dangerous situation?

I said I don't know. But, since they cry more often in general than men, why would you think it's impossible that they also cry more often in dangerous situations? People, male and female, tend to cry more in stressful or more difficult situations, and dangerous situations are a subset of "stressful and difficult" situations. So, to speculate as to whether women might also cry more often than men in dangerous situations, like other situations, isn't a "bias." It's hypothesis, particular since I'm stating explicitly that I don't know.

Bias? Is it "bias" to say that the evidence appears to indicate that women cry more often and for longer periods of time than men in a variety of situations?

[pErvinalia]

Yeah but the point is, you think it is possible. Which just fits in nicely with your biases. Why the fuck would you think women would be less able to keep it together in a dangerous situation?

I said I don't know. But, since they cry more often in general than men, why would you think it's impossible that they also cry more often in dangerous situations?

I don't think it's impossible, but you have to provide some reasoning as to why you think it is possible enough to consider. As to why I think they wouldn't cry more often than men is, simply, natural selection. Crying in many dangerous situations is likely to be totally unproductive and likely harmful as you wouldn't be actively getting out of danger.

[Forty Two]

Yeah but the point is, you think it is possible. Which just fits in nicely with your biases. Why the fuck would you think women would be less able to keep it together in a dangerous situation?

I said I don't know. But, since they cry more often in general than men, why would you think it's impossible that they also cry more often in dangerous situations?

I don't think it's impossible, but you have to provide some reasoning as to why you think it is possible enough to consider. As to why I think they wouldn't cry more often than men is, simply, natural selection. Crying in many dangerous situations is likely to be totally unproductive and likely harmful as you wouldn't be actively getting out of danger.

Well, I provided the rationale for my speculation.

It's possible that women cry more than men in dangerous situations precisely because of natural selection. Crying can be helpful in a social species, where the crying elicits help and protection from others (as was discussed in the links previously provided). However, I haven't seen a specific study on "dangerous" situations, as distinct from "difficult" situations.

[DaveDodo007]

More evidence of the lying bullshit against Hunt.

http://unfashionista.com/2015/07/07/the ... e-process/

Hunt should have been given due process.

The only tweet given during the talk, there is plenty more evidence given in the article that this was a setup and a witch hunt.

[Brian Peacock]

So?

[DaveDodo007]

So?

Erm..The outrage was manufactured, don't you have a problem with that? Especially by a person who is a fraud and got the job through a CV that she only recognized as hers because her name is at the top.

[Brian Peacock]

Actually, I couldn't give a shit about the employment strategy of an organisations PR department. They can employ anyone they like, or not, as far as I'm concerned. What I'm not getting from you is any good reason why this is the righteous social justice issue you'd obviously like us to think it is.

[DaveDodo007]

Actually, I couldn't give a shit about the employment strategy of an organisations PR department. They can employ anyone they like, or not, as far as I'm concerned. What I'm not getting from you is any good reason why this is the righteous social justice issue you'd obviously like us to think it is.

I personally would like people and organisations to stand up to these Internet bullies.