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Re: What Nobel winner Tim Hunt's sexist outburst actually sa

Post by Forty Two » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:29 pm

mistermack wrote:While I continue to argue that Hunt did nothing wrong, I still think he was an idiot.

An idiot to apologise, and an idiot to resign from anything.
In doing that, he was the architect of his own misfortune.

He should have just said, '' I made a joke, and you are taking it out of context '' and ''if you want me gone, you'll have to sack me''.

Why someone with his brains couldn't work that out is beyond me.
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Post by JimC » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:40 pm

...and hell, you should have seen us...
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Post by DaveDodo007 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:09 am

Glad to see the fight back against the continuously offended.

http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 ... r-tim-hunt
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Post by mistermack » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:35 pm

DaveDodo007 wrote:Glad to see the fight back against the continuously offended.

http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 ... r-tim-hunt
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Post by DaveDodo007 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:44 pm

Lol, I thought the name of the university was familiar, hypocrites.

http://www.secularism.org.uk/blog/2014/ ... -miserably

I don't have a problem with this but some lefties might.

http://www.lsnews.co.uk/london-universi ... -industry/
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Post by mistermack » Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:56 am

More sexist bollocks :
England were knocked out of the Women's World Cup in heartbreaking fashion as Laura Bassett's injury-time own goal ensured reigning champions Japan went through to Sunday's final.
There was barely time for England to respond and Bassett burst into tears at the final whistle as her team-mates sunk to the turf.
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She was probably on her period...
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:27 pm

I was just discussing the Women's World Cup the other day -- I find the soccer entertaining and the skill level is very good. The thing I like the best is that the women don't dive and pretend to injury or fake infractions like the men do. Every men's World Cup competition is ruined by the constant falling -- the pretend injuries while holding leg, only to get up immediately and run about as if nothing had happened. Every men's world cup has examples of the male players diving in the penalty box and crying like little bitches. The women don't do that. Awesome. :yes:


Crying on an own goal? I get it.
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Post by Hermit » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:28 pm

Oh yes. And since when is crying a sign of weakness?
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:37 pm

Hermit wrote:Oh yes. And since when is crying a sign of weakness?
Since almost ever, and for good reason. Blubbering doesn't solve problems, and it uses up valuable time/energy/attention that could be directed toward productive efforts. So, traditionally, men have seen crying in the face of adversity as something to avoid or discourage because it doesn't help. Everyone else has to spend time helping the crier get it back together so he can do something.

Crying after a traumatic event is not quite the same thing, because, say, crying when your wife dies is not crying in a situation where action is needed. There is nothing you can do about it. So, crying in that context has never been treated quite the same, although since flaunting one's grief doesn't accomplish anything, men have generally been or tried to be restrained in that regard or at least private about it. There's nothing anyone else can do to assuage your pain in those kinds of instances.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:41 pm

mistermack wrote:More sexist bollocks :
England were knocked out of the Women's World Cup in heartbreaking fashion as Laura Bassett's injury-time own goal ensured reigning champions Japan went through to Sunday's final.
There was barely time for England to respond and Bassett burst into tears at the final whistle as her team-mates sunk to the turf.
Surely, they should have '...sank to the turf'?
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:44 pm

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Hermit wrote:Oh yes. And since when is crying a sign of weakness?
Since almost ever, and for good reason. Blubbering doesn't solve problems, and it uses up valuable time/energy/attention that could be directed toward productive efforts. So, traditionally, men have seen crying in the face of adversity as something to avoid or discourage because it doesn't help. Everyone else has to spend time helping the crier get it back together so he can do something.

Crying after a traumatic event is not quite the same thing, because, say, crying when your wife dies is not crying in a situation where action is needed. There is nothing you can do about it. So, crying in that context has never been treated quite the same, although since flaunting one's grief doesn't accomplish anything, men have generally been or tried to be restrained in that regard or at least private about it. There's nothing anyone else can do to assuage your pain in those kinds of instances.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:46 pm

Crying is for pansies!
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:47 pm

Not cheering it. It just is. Through most of human history, you couldn't get very far as a clan or family group if you sat there blubbering when confronted with saber toothed tigers or roving bands of rapine Neanderthals. The man who was strong enough to organize a defense of the family didn't waste time blubbering, and nobody respected the guys that did and those guys got less vagina than the non-blubberers. Therefore, the non-blubberers procreated more than the blubberers.

Even today, women don't sexually select blubberers. Oh, they want a sensitive man who around them will, once in a while, show emotion and sensitivity, but they don't generally want a man who cries in the face of adversity.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:48 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Crying is for pansies!
Not necessarily, but if a disaster strikes and your family is in danger, is it better to cry about it or do something about it?
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