What if Vegans are Actually Right?

[rainbow]

If God didn't want us to eat animals He wouldn't have made them so tasty.

What are your views on Ethical Cannibalism?

[pErvinalia]

Eating terminal cancer patients?

[rainbow]

Eating terminal cancer patients?

If that is your philosophy, I think you sould be protected.

[Scot Dutchy]

Another vegan failure:



Burger King's new plant-based burger is not suitable for vegans

Fast-food chain’s latest offering, available from Monday, is cooked on a meat grill

Burger King has launched its first plant-based burger in the UK, but it is not suitable for vegans because of the way it is cooked.

The soy-based version of the chain’s Whopper beefburger will be available in UK restaurants from Monday, but is cooked on the same grill as meat, meaning that many non-meat eaters will refuse to eat it.

Instead, the fast-food chain is aiming the new burger, which it has named the Rebel Whopper, at “flexitarians” – people who eat meat but are reducing their intake of animal products.

Toni Vernelli, international head of communications and marketing at Veganuary, a campaign to encourage people to go meat, dairy and egg-free for the month of January, complimented the burger.

The sandwich chain Subway has also made attempts to capitalise on a growing trend towards dairy, egg, and meat-free diets, adding a vegan marinara meatball sandwich to its offering , after launching a vegan patty in 2019.

Now you know it is a fad when Burger King and Subway are in on the act. It is organic soya BTW? Probably GM.

[JimC]

Burger King has launched its first plant-based burger in the UK, but it is not suitable for vegans because of the way it is cooked.

The soy-based version of the chain’s Whopper beefburger will be available in UK restaurants from Monday, but is cooked on the same grill as meat, meaning that many non-meat eaters will refuse to eat it.

Those who would not eat that because of "contamination" are as absurdly deluded as orthodox Jews with their delusional obsessions about food...

[Scot Dutchy]

Burger King has launched its first plant-based burger in the UK, but it is not suitable for vegans because of the way it is cooked.

The soy-based version of the chain’s Whopper beefburger will be available in UK restaurants from Monday, but is cooked on the same grill as meat, meaning that many non-meat eaters will refuse to eat it.

Those who would not eat that because of "contamination" are as absurdly deluded as orthodox Jews with their delusional obsessions about food...

Cant agree more Jim. What really gets me is the way meat terms are used to describe their non-meat products. Tofu steaks anyone?

[pErvinalia]

Their ads bang on about how it tastes just like the beef version. So it can't be taste contaminated by being cooked on the same grill. As you say, Jim, fundamentalist behaviour (if indeed some vegans won't eat it).

[Scot Dutchy]

Vegans should not know what beef tastes like so how can they compare or know it has been cooked on a meat grill.

[pErvinalia]

Most of them would have eaten beef before.

[Brian Peacock]

Where did you pick that up Brian. No source? It says nothing. The usual gaffs that vegans come out with and no answers.

What are you disputing exactly?

[Scot Dutchy]

Where did you pick that up Brian. No source? It says nothing. The usual gaffs that vegans come out with and no answers.

What are you disputing exactly?

I have said it so often Brian: Veganism is an environmental damaging fad that is being exploited by all and sundry as the Burger King ad proves.

[Svartalf]

Another vegan failure:



Burger King's new plant-based burger is not suitable for vegans

Fast-food chain’s latest offering, available from Monday, is cooked on a meat grill

Burger King has launched its first plant-based burger in the UK, but it is not suitable for vegans because of the way it is cooked.

The soy-based version of the chain’s Whopper beefburger will be available in UK restaurants from Monday, but is cooked on the same grill as meat, meaning that many non-meat eaters will refuse to eat it.

Instead, the fast-food chain is aiming the new burger, which it has named the Rebel Whopper, at “flexitarians” – people who eat meat but are reducing their intake of animal products.

Toni Vernelli, international head of communications and marketing at Veganuary, a campaign to encourage people to go meat, dairy and egg-free for the month of January, complimented the burger.

The sandwich chain Subway has also made attempts to capitalise on a growing trend towards dairy, egg, and meat-free diets, adding a vegan marinara meatball sandwich to its offering , after launching a vegan patty in 2019.

Now you know it is a fad when Burger King and Subway are in on the act. It is organic soya BTW? Probably GM.

Fuck the vegans, efforts are made to accomodate them and they refuse because the same kind of separation crazy Jews apply to their own cooking so as to respect the sillier interpretation of some kashrut clauses are not applied for them... dammmit accomodating such ludicrous demands would cause haoc in kitchen organisation and result in a much more expensive sandwich... are they ready to pay what their silly demands entail or do they expect the other customers to soak up the extra cosest on the price of their burgers?

[Brian Peacock]

Where did you pick that up Brian. No source? It says nothing. The usual gaffs that vegans come out with and no answers.

What are you disputing exactly?

I have said it so often Brian: Veganism is an environmental damaging fad that is being exploited by all and sundry as the Burger King ad proves.

Did you even read my comments about soya production, animal agriculture, over production, resource use, global malnutrition and hunger, and the error in talking about the environmental effects of large-scale soya production only in terms of vegan consumption without accounting for wider structural macroceconomic factors or the fact that the vast majority of soya production goes to animal feed? In other words I think you have to do more work to maintain your claim that vegans are responsible for the environmental consequences of soya production than simply asserting it.

[Brian Peacock]

As for the Burger King ad: from the article...

... The fast-food chain is aiming the new burger, which it has named the Rebel Whopper, at “flexitarians” – people who eat meat but are reducing their intake of animal products.

Toni Vernelli, international head of communications and marketing at Veganuary, a campaign to encourage people to go meat, dairy and egg-free for the month of January, complimented the burger.

He said that the method of cooking “makes absolutely no difference” to those trying to cut down meat, but could encourage meat-eaters to lower their consumption.

“What does make a big difference to animals and the planet is when non-vegans choose a plant-based menu option, enjoy it and then order it again,” he said. “And that’s exactly who Burger King’s plant-based Whopper is aimed at, flexitarians who want to reduce their meat consumption for health or environmental reasons, or are considering going vegan.”

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Growing awareness of the impact of meat and dairy production on the climate has contributed to a spike in veganism in recent years, with the UN a long-standing advocate of reducing animal product consumption.

Last year, 250,000 people pledged to go vegan in January, with vegan celebrities including Venus Williams, Zac Efron and Ariana Grande credited with raising the profile of the movement...

The click-baity headline aside, it's not a vegan burger, that is; its not a burger aimed at or marketed to vegans as vegan. Some vegans who choose to eat at Burger King might be OK with it because their focus is not on meat as a moral contaminant or poison but on the animal welfare, social justice, environmental and/or macroeconomic issues associated with animal agriculture. Other vegans, particular the so-called Vegan™ vegans, are far more militant and focus almost entirely on policing the shopping habits and consumption of other vegans where not only meat but the non-meat products of companies associated with meat production are treated as a moral containment or poison. It takes all sorts. I reckon most vegans will probably avoid Burger King because of their unavoidable association with animal agriculture even though, like McDonalds, Burger King also serve a number of items which they say are suitable for vegan.

What is clear though from the comments is that the 'story', that vegans are somehow outraged by the burger, is false, but it still offers a chance to vilify vegans as a whole as irrational or deluded or akin to religious extremists eh?

[Brian Peacock]

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Fuck the vegans, efforts are made to accomodate them and they refuse because the same kind of separation crazy Jews apply to their own cooking so as to respect the sillier interpretation of some kashrut clauses are not applied for them... dammmit accomodating such ludicrous demands would cause haoc in kitchen organisation and result in a much more expensive sandwich... are they ready to pay what their silly demands entail or do they expect the other customers to soak up the extra cosest on the price of their burgers?

As I said to Scot, most vegans will probably avoid burger chains because of their unavoidable association with animal agriculture, and in this case Burger King are not making 'efforts to accommodate' vegans but trying to entice meat-eaters who are giving up meat for January to spend money in their stores. As for comparing all vegans to religious fundamentalists: are we really over-burdened with fundamentalists demanding that every eating establishment adheres to their laws, or do they just eat somewhere else? The internet tells me there's kosher McDonalds in Israel and New York btw.