macdoc wrote:That's atmospheric which is a tiny portion of the heat/energy capture going on.
You hear this over and over again now. The globe is still warming, but it's going into the oceans.
That's because for sixteen years, the atmospheric temperature has stayed steady. This is accepted now by all but the weirdest loonies. There is also the '' lost heat '' problem, because according to the heat in/out equations, the atmosphere SHOULD be a lot warmer by now.
This has been '' solved '' in the alarmist camps, by claiming that the lost heat has been absorbed in the oceans, and not that the heat in/out equations have a serious flaw.
It could be one, it could be the other. Nobody knows, because the deepest ocean temperatures are not being accurately monitored, and never have been.
What it does prove though, without any doubt whatsoever, is that the models that the gullible were sold, over the years, were wrong. No, we don't understand climate. No, we can't say what will happen. No, we can't model it successfully. Yet.
It's about time people like macdoc got truthful, and admitted that, instead of clinging in a religious fashion to a completely false '' certainty ''.
Even if it's right, that the lost heat is in the deepest part of the oceans, that doesn't mean global catastrophe.
Far from it, it means that the oceans can absorb more heat than we thought possible, and in that case, they will have to re imagine what the supposed atmospheric warming will be by the end of the century.
If it's wrong, and the in/out heat equations have at least one missing component, then the climate is even MORE resistant to overheating than we thought, and we should start to worry instead about how we can prevent the next glaciation.