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by Svartalf » Wed May 16, 2012 12:08 pm
Seraph wrote:Svartalf wrote:Clinton Huxley wrote:You should stick to this flavour of gibberish, Mr Redford...
The teachings and actions of Jesus Christ (Yeshua Ha’Mashiach) and the apostles recorded in the New Testament are analyzed in regard to their ethical and political philosophy, with analysis of context vis-a-vis the Old Testament (Tanakh, or Hebrew Bible) being given. From this analysis, it is shown that Jesus is a libertarian anarchist, i.e., a consistent voluntaryist. The implications this has for the world are profound, and the ramifications of Jesus’s anarchism to Christians’ attitudes toward government (the state) and its actions are explicated.
Sorry to seemingly answer to you Clinton, but I couldn't be bothered to look for the original post you quote.
Redford, if you want to quote stuff, please quote creditable one.
Maybe you should have searched for the original quote. You would have discovered that Clinton is the first person to use it in this thread. Your mistaken assumption makes your second sentence egg-on-face material.
It sure looked like something redford would have quoted... plus, I posted on this thread before the third coffee mug.
And if it's not a Redford quote, where is it from?
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by Clinton Huxley » Wed May 16, 2012 12:11 pm
To be clear, what I quoted is from something else Redford penned, re "Jesus being an anarchist". Helps to set the context for Redford's delusions, I think.
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by Robert_S » Wed May 16, 2012 12:19 pm
I do not really want to look through the whole thread, so could someone tell me where it is that the theory is set forth in a relatively coherent fashion in around five or six paragraphs with the minimum amount of jargon.
Also, I am sorta used to the citations being footnotes instead of the main text and I might be too old to change my ways.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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by Clinton Huxley » Wed May 16, 2012 12:21 pm
Robert_S wrote:I do not really want to look through the whole thread, so could someone tell me where it is that the theory is set forth in a relatively coherent fashion in around five or six paragraphs with the minimum amount of jargon.
Also, I am sorta used to the citations being footnotes instead of the main text and I might be too old to change my ways.
The PDF is 185 pages long. That way madness lies.
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by klr » Wed May 16, 2012 12:23 pm
Clinton Huxley wrote:Robert_S wrote:I do not really want to look through the whole thread, so could someone tell me where it is that the theory is set forth in a relatively coherent fashion in around five or six paragraphs with the minimum amount of jargon.
Also, I am sorta used to the citations being footnotes instead of the main text and I might be too old to change my ways.
The PDF is 185 pages long.
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by Clinton Huxley » Wed May 16, 2012 12:26 pm
I kind of can't resist - may download when I get home.
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by klr » Wed May 16, 2012 12:27 pm
Clinton Huxley wrote:I kind of can't resist - may download when I get home.
Oh, and I think I'm going to use "That way madness lies" in a work email this afternoon.

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by FBM » Wed May 16, 2012 12:32 pm
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by Clinton Huxley » Wed May 16, 2012 12:34 pm
Ok, Redford's paper has the following keywords....
God; physics; cosmology; science; quantum gravity; Theory of Everything; TOE; Omega Point Theory; Omega Point Theorem; Omega Point cosmology; theology; Christianity; Trinity; Jesus Christ; Yeshua Ha'Mashiach; immortality; resurrection; resurrection of the dead; Heaven; Heaven on Earth; Paradise; transhumanism; superhumanism; New World Order; state terrorism; false-flag terrorism; End Time; End Times; Tribulation; Mark of the Beast; Second Coming
And contains things like:-
It may be wondered why, since God can perform miracles using the electroweak quan-
tum tunneling mechanism allowed by the known laws of physics, He does not simply
materialize a fully-developed sapient self-replicating spacecraft, thereby doing an end-
run around the painful early stages of the evolutionary process. The reason God cannot
do this is because this would create a logically paradoxical strange loop whereby the
knowledge of good and evil doesn't exist in existence, thereby setting the stage for the
destruction of existence due to evil being generated by a highly advanced society: as
the universe's Taublike collapses in different directions require a high level of coop-
eration among the far-future sapient beings, and hence a highly complex free-market
economy of which could not exist if evil were allowed to grow without restraint.
I believe the best course is to tiptoe away and not make any sudden movements....
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by Robert_S » Wed May 16, 2012 12:46 pm
Looks like I've picked the wrong week to stop taking rhinoceros tranquilizers.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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by FBM » Wed May 16, 2012 12:49 pm
Robert_S wrote:Looks like I've picked the wrong week to stop taking rhinoceros tranquilizers.
...in a Turkish prison.
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by Hermit » Wed May 16, 2012 12:51 pm
Clinton Huxley wrote:It may be wondered why, since God can perform miracles using the electroweak quan-
tum tunneling mechanism allowed by the known laws of physics, He does not simply
materialize a fully-developed sapient self-replicating spacecraft, thereby doing an end-
run around the painful early stages of the evolutionary process. The reason God cannot
do this is because this would create a logically paradoxical strange loop whereby the
knowledge of good and evil doesn't exist in existence, thereby setting the stage for the
destruction of existence due to evil being generated by a highly advanced society: as
the universe's Taublike collapses in different directions require a high level of coop-
eration among the far-future sapient beings, and hence a highly complex free-market
economy of which could not exist if evil were allowed to grow without restraint.
I believe the best course is to tiptoe away and not make any sudden movements....
Oh. I mean I believe you're right.

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by Svartalf » Wed May 16, 2012 12:54 pm
Robert_S wrote:Looks like I've picked the wrong week to stop taking rhinoceros tranquilizers.
Time to switch to hippo... or do you go straight for elephant?
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by Robert_S » Wed May 16, 2012 12:54 pm
FBM wrote:Robert_S wrote:Looks like I've picked the wrong week to stop taking rhinoceros tranquilizers.
...in a Turkish prison.
No, not in my "Turkish prison", I would usually just put some on my fingertips and poke my eyes out.. I don't think I ever heard that euphemism before, but I have heard of people taking various recreational drugs in suppository form though.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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by Bella Fortuna » Wed May 16, 2012 12:56 pm
Clinton Huxley wrote:Ok, Redford's paper has the following keywords....
God; physics; cosmology; science; quantum gravity; Theory of Everything; TOE; Omega Point Theory; Omega Point Theorem; Omega Point cosmology; theology; Christianity; Trinity; Jesus Christ; Yeshua Ha'Mashiach; immortality; resurrection; resurrection of the dead; Heaven; Heaven on Earth; Paradise; transhumanism; superhumanism; New World Order; state terrorism; false-flag terrorism; End Time; End Times; Tribulation; Mark of the Beast; Second Coming
And contains things like:-
It may be wondered why, since God can perform miracles using the electroweak quan-
tum tunneling mechanism allowed by the known laws of physics, He does not simply
materialize a fully-developed sapient self-replicating spacecraft, thereby doing an end-
run around the painful early stages of the evolutionary process. The reason God cannot
do this is because this would create a logically paradoxical strange loop whereby the
knowledge of good and evil doesn't exist in existence, thereby setting the stage for the
destruction of existence due to evil being generated by a highly advanced society: as
the universe's Taublike collapses in different directions require a high level of coop-
eration among the far-future sapient beings, and hence a highly complex free-market
economy of which could not exist if evil were allowed to grow without restraint.
I believe the best course is to tiptoe away and not make any sudden movements....
Well, he's already performed resurrection of the dead by enlivening this thread after a blessed two year death... can it be much longer before he makes all the rest of those things come true?!

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